Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

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Gao we were wrong.

Not for the first time.

Categorically, unambiguously,

explicitly wrong.

Yeah and ironically it makes no difference really to how you feel I always say that you

know those people who go into exams and say oh I'm going to do terribly or you know I'm going to fail it doesn't

your prediction doesn't have any effect on the consequence on how you feel

losing heavily feels rubbish, however, which way you looked at it beforehand.

What annoyed me up so slightly this week is I've heard seen a lot of tweets, a lot of journalists say I can't believe people

were tipping Wales can't believe you know how how naive how naive how

audacious of you well I don't think there were that many people putting Wales down as favorites.

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