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S6 Episode 7 - "Constellation"

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4.83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Reagan arrives, emboldening South Africa and Savimbi. The MPLA hangs on. Cuba recommits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

At the United Nations, as black African countries force a test of U.S. attitudes,

0:05.7

Ambassador Gene Kirkpatrick explains Reagan administration policy towards southern Africa.

0:19.9

Secretary of State Hague yesterday said in his speech about human rights that human rights

0:25.9

violations by an authoritarian state are not as bad as those committed by a totalitarian

0:35.0

state, which category to South Africa fall into an apartheid?

0:39.3

Ah, you know, it's a fair, that's a real political science question. Speak about this luxury.

0:57.0

Speak about this luxury.

1:00.0

Speak about this last sign.

1:04.0

Speak about this last sign.

1:09.0

Welcome to blowback. I'm Brendan James.

1:12.7

And I'm Noah Colwin. And this is Season 6, Episode 7, Constellation.

1:18.9

In our last episode, we saw how Jimmy Carter's White House tried to solve its problem in southern Africa.

1:27.5

We saw how, despite the best efforts of the so-called dealers in the Carter administration,

1:33.7

it was their rivals, the bleeders, who ended up setting Cold War policy once again.

1:40.5

By the spring of 1980, both UN Ambassador Andrew Young and Secretary of State, Cyrus Vance, were out.

1:50.7

National Security Advisor Zbignev Brzynski was very much in.

1:56.6

In Luanda, meanwhile, the Angolan's lost a founding father, Augustinio Netto, who died of cancer

2:04.1

in the autumn of 79, and the MPLA faced a rising threat, Unita and Jonas Savimbi.

2:12.9

Like a phoenix from the ashes, Savimbi's forces had been revived with support from South Africa, the

2:19.5

Safari Club, Western Europe, and the United States. Luanda, and its military allies from Havana,

2:27.4

now agreed that even worse might be yet to come.

2:32.2

In this episode, we'll see what happens when a new president enters the scene, Ronald Reagan.

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