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🗓️ 18 May 2020
⏱️ 52 minutes
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0:00.0 | Around the world, more than 80 women have accused Peter Nygard of crimes ranging from rape to sex trafficking. |
0:08.0 | He far exceeds Jeffrey Epstein, he far exceeds Bill Cosby, he exceeds anything that I think our world has seen so far. |
0:16.0 | A pattern of predatory behavior spanning half a century. Nygard denies it all, but now he faces criminal charges. |
0:25.0 | It's just where a poor man, he would have been in jail decades ago. He is hid in plain sight. |
0:31.0 | Evil by design, available now on CBC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts. |
0:37.0 | This is a CBC Podcast. |
0:47.0 | You're listening to someone know something from CBC Podcasts. |
0:51.0 | This is season 6, Episode 2, Pit Fire. |
1:01.0 | This is Dawn. It's one of my favorite shirts that he wore. I have pictures of him in it and it's everything I have left clothing wise. |
1:13.0 | I'm sitting with Deborah in her kitchen and she's just held up a medium-sized blue and white denim shirt that she's unconsciously pressing to her heart. |
1:23.0 | And he was probably like, I don't know, 10, maybe 12 years old, something like that wouldn't work. |
1:33.0 | For years, I slept with it and then I put it away in a bag because I felt like I was losing the scent from it. |
1:43.0 | And then after years, I ended up harsh because I couldn't spell it anymore and then every trip to Mississippi, I bring it with me and sleep with it and hold it and I just feel, I don't know that he's with me. |
1:57.0 | Deborah hands me the shirt and I think she wants me to smell it so awkwardly I do. |
2:05.0 | Part of the reason I was drawn to Donnie's case is Deborah's absolute dedication to solving it and the connection she had with her son through things like this shirt. |
2:15.0 | The notion that nothing else in the world matters to Deborah even at the cost of her own health. |
2:23.0 | Had a very, very big case of panic attacks years ago. They had felt they found Donnie and we were waiting for the DNA results of what they had taken for me to match with this John Doe that they had and they got this Georgia. |
2:44.0 | And the profala was 99% sure that it was Donnie. |
2:50.0 | And it was a long process but anyway, I was actually praying to John Doe that we were waiting on Miss Donnie because I knew him heart that Donnie was dead and I just wanted it all to be her. |
3:06.0 | But it wasn't over. The DNA didn't match and Deborah's panic attacks got worse. |
3:13.0 | I'd have to stay outside of my house on the patio during the night because I couldn't be inside with a worse close and I started smelling smoke and it was doing the night, always like up to the night smelling smoke. |
3:27.0 | It continued where I could be anywhere. It was just happening all the time so I went to the doctor and he said that sometimes that happens. |
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