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Hello everyone and welcome to the Focus Group podcast. I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark, and this week we're dealing with what has been the biggest story in America for the last

two weeks, the assassination of

Charlie Kirk. A couple of days after Kirk's death, we had a conversation on this show about

people's fears, about political violence. That was kind of an ad hoc. We just threw it together.

But today I want to have a longer conversation about Kirk's legacy on the right and how his

death will, I think, reverberate through politics in the years ahead.

In the last week, there was a public memorial service for Charlie Kirk that was widely attended

by prominent folks on the right, including the president, which had some interesting clues for where

that movement goes from here. Today, we're going to hear from Gen Z conservatives, who were,

you know, Kirk's main audience about how they're processing his death, how they view his legacy,

and who they think may pick up that mantle on the right.

My guest today is Will Summer, who listeners of this show know has been out on the right-wing media

beat. He is the author of our newsletter at the bulwark, False Flag. He has been doing

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