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podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

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Well I used to present S4C's rugby coverage.

Somebody came up to me once and said,

oh, how's Gwen Jones?

And I went, oh, I haven't seen it for months.

And they said, but you work on the same show as him. I went, oh yeah, yeah, but logistically sometimes

with working on rugby game, you're presenting pitchside, the commentators are up in the gun tree, your paths don't necessarily cross.

And this is how I feel right now, Philip, because we,

Philip Attached you by the way, welcome the Scrampiffy Podcast.

We commented with each other for 80 minutes but because you were

part of the pitch side presentation team we haven't done any players entries.

Yeah very true literally I don't think I even asked you how you were we just picked up

the mic and and went around with it it how the devil are you I'm

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