It seems to me appropriate, almost inevitable, that when that great imagination which in the beginning formed the whole world of nature, submitted to express itself in human speech, that speech should sometimes be poetry.

For poetry too is a little incarnation, giving body to what had before been invisible and inaudible.

This is Pints with Jack, Season 5, Episode 64.

Conspiracy of Light, after hours with D.S. Martin.

Good morning, everyone. Pites with Jack is your favorite weekly C.S. Lewis podcast, where three friends,

Andrew, David and Matt break down and discuss the works of C.S. Lewis. And this season, we've read The Four Loves,

but we're currently in Poetry Month. And the quotation at the start of this episode was from

reflections on the Psalms, where Lewis notes that God saw fit to express himself

in the Bible through poetry.

So far this month, we've mostly looked at Lewis's own poetry, but today we're going to be

looking at poetry about Lewis, and we're doing this with poet D.S. Martin.

D.S. Martin is a Canadian poet, series editor of the Poema Poetry series, and poet in residence

at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario. His poetry has appeared in many publications

around the world, such as Canadian Literature, Christian Century, Dalhousie Review, Event,

Irish Times, practical theology, and Queens Quarterly.

He is involved in Poems for Ephesians, a poetry web journal for the McMaster Divinity College

website. He is a participant in the Rabbit Room, and he also blogs at Kingdom Poets and the 55 Project.

He and his wife, Gloria, live in Brampton, Ontario, and they have two adult sons.

He is the author of Angelicus, Amper Sand, Poema, and So the Moon Would Not Be Swallowed.

But the main reason he's here today is to talk to us about his 2013 book, Conspiracy of Light,

poems inspired by the legacy of C.S. Lewis.

D.S. Martin, welcome to Pites for Jack.

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