S5E52 Dead and in Hell Part 9 (and the Bee Gees)

Standard of Truth

Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat

Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 990 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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It’s the end of the year, the Spotify “Wrapped” flexing is in full swing, and Richard LeDuc is fresh off hosting a Hanukkah party that looked suspiciously like a full-blown ward social. Gerrit trys to solve the greatest unsolved case of 2025: why Richard’s “most played song” is Massachusetts by the Bee Gees… a song he swears he has never listened to. After a quick stop at the Phoebe Draper Palmer Brown Mailbag, they jump back into who is Dead and in Hell. Gerrit continues the story of Judge Perry Brocchus’s infamous Bowery speech in 1851, where what was supposed to be a simple patriotic appeal for a Washington Monument donation turns into a full-blown scolding of the Saints for criticizing the U.S. government. The discussion covers why Brocchus’s argument lands so badly with a people who had lived through Missouri and Nauvoo, how Brigham Young responds with one of his sharpest lines (“profoundly ignorant or willfully wicked”), and how the fallout gets weaponized in hostile newspaper coverage accusing the Saints of sedition and rebellion. Standard of Truth Tour dates for the summer of 2027: ⁠ https://standardoftruth.com/tours Our 2026 tours are sold out, but if you would like to join us in the future here is a link to our 2027 tours: ⁠ Sign up for our free monthly email: ⁠ ⁠https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com⁠ If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: ⁠⁠questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast. In this podcast, Dr. Garrett Dirk-Mott and Dr. Richard
0:08.2	Leduc explore the early history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the life
0:14.3	and teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith. They examine the original historical sources and provide
0:20.4	context for events of the past.
0:23.1	They approach the history of the church with faith, expertise, and humor.
0:36.9	Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth podcast.
0:40.5	I'm your host, Dr. Garrett Dirkmont, and I am joined by my friend, Dr. Richard Leduc.
0:45.6	Hello, Garrett.
0:46.7	Thanks for having me back, and happy Hanukkah.
0:50.1	Yes, Richard had his annual Hanukkah party just last night, in fact.
0:55.9	I did.
0:56.6	I did.
0:57.5	It was a great time for Kith and Kin.
1:00.9	I like the fact that Richard once told me that there were going to be a couple dozen people there.
1:06.4	And I showed up and there were, Angie and I legitimately, as we pulled into the parking lot,
1:12.9	had a conversation.
1:14.9	Do you think they're having it at a different church?
1:18.5	Because this looks like a ward party.
1:21.2	Because there were dozens and dozens of cars in the parking law.
1:26.5	So then I'm thinking, well, maybe they're doing like something at the chapel at the same time that they're doing something in the gym.
1:34.3	Nope, it was Richard's Hanukkah Party.
1:36.9	And it was with, I think, a hundred more people that he had dissipated.
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