When the natural loves become lawless, they do not merely do harm to other loves.

They themselves cease to be the loves they were, to be loves at all.

This is Pines with Jack, season five, episode five.

The Four Loves, Chapter 2, likings and loves of the Subhuman Part 3.

Good morning, everyone.

Pines with Jack is your favorite weekly CS Lewis podcast.

We're three friends, Andrew, myself, and David, two Americans and an Englishman

break down and discuss the works of C.S. Lewis. This season, we're talking about love,

slowly working our way through the four loves, the book where Lewis writes about affection,

friendship, romance, and charity.

And gentlemen, it is a pleasure to be back.

How have you guys been this past week?

Well, I'm doing well.

We're in Sarasota, Florida once again, where my wife's family is is and staying with my brother-in-law and

sister-in-law again.

And lovely to be back here, we've been blessed to have a lot of time.

And we're recording on the week of Thanksgiving, and it's actually C.S. Lewis's birthday.

So before we started, or I'm sorry, his promotion day,

the day that he became a saint. His birthday into eternal life. Yes, the 22nd of November is when

we're recording. So doing quite well. I'm going to go see Max's Most Reluctic Convert again

tomorrow night and working on a paper about Lewis

an autobiography and making some interesting discoveries there.

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