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Standard of Truth

S5E42 Prescription to Avoid Apostasy

Standard of Truth

Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat

Religion & Spirituality

4.9990 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we discuss the most recent General Conference, Thomas B. Marsh’s prescription to avoid apostasy after apostasy and his return to the Church, and why “Mormons” are viewed as a cult. Kristy’s KorneЯ (Last Minute Lesson Prep): D&C 112 ⁠ Sign up for our free monthly email that is rarely monthly: ⁠ ⁠https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com⁠ If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: ⁠⁠questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com Rex’s Elders Quorum President’s Show Notes: 01:31 – Gerrit reflects on empathy and family teachings from Conference. 03:05 – Discussion on emotional reactions to doctrines about marriage and family. 04:30 – Sports-team loyalty as an analogy for emotional reasoning in faith. 07:50 – Mercy and gratitude; Richard’s emotional takeaway from Conference. 08:45 – Cajun-seasoning humor from Elder Amos’ talk; lighthearted recap. 09:30 – Listener email from Mindy, stake RS president; Kristy’s KorneЯ intro. 13:45 – Doctrine & Covenants 112: Thomas B. Marsh revelation overview. 20:40 – Marsh’s pride, Kirtland apostasy, and “rebel not against my servant Joseph.” 23:15 – Missouri conflicts; Marsh’s eventual apostasy and later return. 25:30 – Reading Marsh’s handwritten “Prescription for Apostasy.” 28:55 – Bishop Jepson’s email; humor about accidental promotions. 30:31 – Running joke: the show’s “power” to make listeners bishops. 33:45 – Panama missionary asks why God allows apostasy 36:37 – Gerrit explains apostasy, agency, and salvation for the dead. 42:14 – Couple in hospital email: garments and “Mormons as a cult” questions. 48:41 – History of sacred clothing and the Protestant Reformation. 53:30 – Catholic vs. evangelical views on sacred garments. 56:30 – Why some Christians call Latter-day Saints a cult; creed differences.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast. In this podcast, Dr. Garrett Dirk-Mott and Dr. Richard

0:08.2

Leduc explore the early history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the life

0:14.3

and teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith. They examine the original historical sources and provide

0:20.4

context for events of the past.

0:23.1

They approach the history of the church with faith, expertise, and humor.

0:37.3

Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth podcast.

0:41.1

I'm your host, Dr. Garrett Dirkmont, and I am joined by my newly reinvigorated having listened to General Conference right up to this moment, friend and co-host, Dr. Richard Ledoux.

0:54.8

Hello, Garrett. Thanks for having me back. I loved conference. I thought it was, I thought it was awesome.

1:00.6

I, did you have a couple of favorite parts from, from conference that stood out to?

1:04.3

Well, I was glad that since I have been embarrassed of recent date, not knowing how many temples they would announce,

1:13.1

I was glad that I wouldn't have to worry about that anymore.

1:16.9

That's true.

1:17.6

I believe if you were setting the over under on that,

1:20.2

you put it at like 10,

1:21.4

right?

1:22.1

So is that like an all bets are off thing?

1:25.1

Is it like,

1:25.3

yeah,

1:25.7

no,

1:26.1

it's like when the starting quarterback gets

1:29.0

hurt and so the the bet goes off the board according to my friends who are degenerates that

1:35.7

participate in sports gambling which i would never do and do not do and do not recommend people do

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