Hello Guy, so we've got a bit of a hero of yours on today.

Very, very much a hero, Gary. And talking of heroes, can I just say, for our listeners,

those who don't know to congratulate you, if you don't know Gary was awarded the

BMI ICON Award at London Savoy Hotel just a few days ago.

Thank you and that's not the body Index Award, even though I am ripped.

It's the Broadcast Music Incorporated award.

And thank you, Guy, and that was, yeah, I was actually racked with nerves and my self-doubt and my

imposter syndrome were very much the fore. And, you know, it was a room full of

industry people and artists and to get up and get that award.

You just feel uncomfortable don't you? So I think I was the most nervous I'd ever been on the stage.

Oh bless you. That's very sweet. I was nice yet nice your brother

was there and it was very nice for you to name check the band the way you did it was a very

good you were very generous as you were very cute anyway back to your hero Derek

Albian Smbien Smalls.

Derek Albien Smalls, yeah, I've got to say obviously as a bass player,

I mean there are very few bass players out there who this guy doesn't really, you know, who we followed.

I mean, because there was something about his style

that's kind of in a way, it lends,

I think it sort of lends itself quite a word to comparison with like Adam Clayton and Peter Hook,

although in a different way. I think you'd call his style has an almost sort of

moronic quality. Yeah. I mean if it's simple for those who don't know and I'm sure you do you know you would

I'm sorry part of Spinal Tap the band Spinal Tap and you know obviously there's the famous

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