Perhaps for many of us, all experience merely defines, so to speak, the shape of that gap where our love of God ought to be.

It is not enough. It is something. If we cannot practice the presence of God, it is something to practice the absence of God,

to become increasingly aware of our un unawareness till we feel like men who

should stand beside a great cataract and hear no noise, or like a man who in a story who

looks in a mirror and finds no face there, or a man in a dream who stretches out his hand

to visible objects and gets no sensation

of touch. To know that one is dreaming is to be no longer perfectly asleep, but for news

of the fully waking world, you must go to my betters. This is Pints with Jack, season five, episode 28.

The Four Loves.

Chapter 6.

Charity Part 3.

Good morning, afternoon, evening, everyone. Pints with Jackie's your favorite weekly C.S. Lewis podcast,

where three friends, Andrew, David, and myself, break down and discuss the works of C.S. Lewis.

This season, we're talking about love, slowly and deliberately working our way through the four loves.

The book where Lewis writes about affection, friendship, romance, and charity.

And today we come to the final part of the final chapter.

But first, how are you all feeling, gentlemen?

Well, I'm having a great afternoon, a great morning.

I went to chapel this morning, and I don't know if you've ever been at worship

and just kind of got ambushed by peace.

I've got a million things going on.

I've got deadlines whooshing past me.

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