S5E24 Was Hyrum Smith Called as an Apostle?

Standard of Truth

Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat

Religion & Spirituality

5 • 709 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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We begin the episode with Richard recounting a personal spiritual experience at a sacrament meeting in Fruita, Colorado… home of Mike the Headless Chicken. We then answer a litner’s question: Was Hyrum Smith an apostle? We discuss Hyrum’s unique role in the Church, drawing from Doctrine & Covenants 124 and the Council of Fifty minutes. Gerrit walks through the complexity of 19th-century Church leadership structure, why modern categories like “apostle” don’t always cleanly map to early Church roles, and why Hyrum’s spiritual authority was second only to Joseph’s. Finally, Gerrit shares a powerful, little-known sermon from Hyrum Smith delivered just months before his death, where Hyrum tells the Council of Fifty to stop worrying about how God’s work will be done, and start believing that He will do it. Mike the Headless Chicken: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34198390 Kristy’s KorneЯ (Last Minute Lesson Prep): The Lord chastens Richard (D&C 58:4 and D&C 3:1) Standard of Truth Tour dates for the summer of 2026: ⁠ https://standardoftruth.com/tours/ Missouri/Nauvoo – June 14th through June 20th – 3 spots left Sign up for our free monthly email (almost never monthly): ⁠ ⁠https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com⁠ If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: ⁠⁠[email protected]

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast. In this podcast, Dr. Garrett Dirk-Mott and Dr. Richard
0:08.2	Leduc explore the early history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the life
0:14.3	and teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith. They examine the original historical sources and provide
0:20.4	context for events of the past.
0:23.1	They approach the history of the church with faith, expertise, and humor.
0:40.4	Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth podcast.
0:47.3	I'm your host, Dr. Garrett Dirkmont, and I am joined by my friend, the great Dr. Richard Luduke.
0:48.7	Hello, Garrett.
0:50.0	Thanks for having me back.
0:51.5	I'm so excited to be here after the Knicks have been eliminated from the playoffs
0:56.9	because for some reason I hate the Knicks.
0:59.8	I don't know what it is, but I do.
1:01.9	It's an interesting thing that we've talked about before that somehow Richard loves the Yankees
1:09.2	and at the same time utterly despises the Knicks.
1:14.7	It's a, it's the most, I mean, Richard is a, he's a portrait of contradictions.
1:21.8	Legitimately, the same person he's sitting in Yankee Stadium with, you know, cheering on the last home run is literally
1:30.6	the same person that he's yelling at at a Knicks game for being a terrible person.
1:37.1	They're the same person. I think I have figured it out. I have explained it before where, you know,
1:41.8	growing up in Idaho, you and I both had negative seven channels, right?
1:45.6	And so the options were limited. And so, you know, the teams that we liked are generally the teams that-
1:49.5	Although I feel like you were living a little more boozy on your side of the state.
1:54.4	Over in Western Idaho?
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