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Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan

S5 Ep43: How Many Staircases Does it Take to Outrun the Ghosts

Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan

Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan

True Crime, Science, Society & Culture

4.010.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In the late 1800s, a widow took her fortune and moved out west to pursue an unusual hobby. The result was what we now call The Winchester Mystery House. Was Sarah Winchester really trying to outrun ghosts, or was she just trying to live out the rest of her life in peace and comfort?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Without actual proof of paranormal activity, what makes a place seem haunted to you?

0:11.5

Old dusty furniture, creaky doors?

0:15.1

What about stairs that lead to nowhere or labyrinthian hallways that carry you far away enough from where you started

0:22.3

that you can't find your way back again. What about a space would stop you in your tracks to ask

0:29.6

yourself, where am I? Welcome to strange and unexplained with me, Daisy Egan.

0:39.4

I've been known to say that if I were to, God forbid, lose my family, I would yeat myself right off the planet.

0:46.8

But recently, I was contemplating that awful scenario, and I thought, well, perhaps before Thelma and louising myself over the Grand Canyon,

0:55.6

I might figure out a way to go see some places in the world. Perhaps I might take whatever money

1:00.9

I have left and go completely off the grid and travel, and once I'm done with that, I'll control

1:06.9

I'll delete myself. But also, maybe once I'm done traveling, I could go become a monk in

1:12.7

the mountains of Japan. And suddenly, while I was thinking of all these things I would want to do and

1:18.1

see before I blooped off the earth, I realized that these were all things to live for. As broken-hearted

1:25.1

as I would be to lose my loved ones, as bereft of purpose as I think it might

1:29.5

make me feel, perhaps there are things I could do with the time I had left that would make any of

1:35.3

it worth living.

1:37.8

The woman behind the subject of today's episode seemed to have figured that out. After facing

1:43.5

immeasurable loss, she picked herself up

1:46.1

and threw herself so hard into a new hobby that the outcome remains to this day, a legend.

2:06.9

Sarah Lockwood Party was born into wealth in 1839 in New Haven, Connecticut.

2:14.0

Her father, Leonard Party, was a manufacturer of carriages, and her mother, also Sarah, was a socialite.

2:20.0

Sarah was one of seven children. She was extremely bright. She spoke four languages,

2:25.0

attended young ladies' Collegiate Institute at Yale, and according to a piece about her on biography.com from 2020, she showed proficiencies in musical composition, math, and science.

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