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Hi, I'm Kelly. I am 24 years old and I live in the Sacramento region. I know Julia from

childhood attending the same church. She was a youth leader at the time that I was entering into

the junior high group and she became somebody that I went to for questions and enjoyed her company.

I worked with her children.

And we have stayed in touch all of these years since.

I'm so proud of her.

I know that she experienced quite a lot more than she's spoken about in her experience so far.

And I am incredibly moved that she has felt finally comfortable enough to share those pieces of her story publicly,

especially because people at the church have read her

blog and responded to it semi-publicly. I was chatting with a couple of people who said that it was

hurtful to them to see two friends going at it. And I thought that that was interesting.

So I know that she's received some criticism for coming out,

but I also don't think that it is anybody's responsibility

to soften their story to make an abuser feel better.

You think you know me, you don't know me well at all.

Thinking of me, you don't know me well.

You think you know me, you don't know me well at all, little, little, How do me where Leto How would you describe Lance as a person?

He's incredibly domineering if he feels like he needs to be, if he needs to establish dominance over another human.

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