I'm Rebecca LaVoye. Welcome to the Undisclosed addendum. Today we're talking about Tom,

episode 12 of the new season of Undisclosed. It's about Jeff Titus, who was convicted of the

1990 murders of Doug Estes and Jim Bennett 12 years after the double homicide in 2002.

Titus is currently incarcerated in Michigan and has always maintained his innocence.

If you haven't listened to the episode we're going to be talking about, I strongly suggest you

pause this podcast and go back and listen to episode 12.

It is awesome.

And then come back and listen to this conversation because we will still be here. We have a special guest joining us today. And our

guest is Amber Hunt. She's an award-winning journalist, bestselling author and host of Crimes of the

Centries, a history meets true crime podcast on the Obsessedessed Network and accused one of my all-time favorite

podcast for the Cincinnati Inquirer for which she reinvestigates old cases in the search

of new leads. Hey, Amber, it's great talking to you. Hey, I missed you guys. I miss you too, by the way.

I should also mention Amber is also my real-life friend. And of course, with us is Susan Simpson,

one of the hosts of Undisclosed, a lawyer and super investigator and the lead on the Jeff Titus case.

Hey, Susan. Hey, Rebecca. So Amber, I understand you know a little bit about the Titus case. Can you

tell me what you know and just give me your impressions of this case generally?

When the case was reinvestigated, I actually was kind of a green cub reporter in Michigan at the time.

So I remember I was paying attention to it.

And I was also very impressed that they could come up with an answer after so many years.

But I was also covering my very first murder back then. And I was real

stupid. So I've become a little more jaded in the interim here, just a little bit. Yeah.

Now, Amber, your podcast accused looks at cold cases, basically, or cases that may have been like, you know, taken wrong turns.

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