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The Focus Group Podcast

S5 Ep22: 'This Country is Effed' (with Jonathan Cohn)

The Focus Group Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump's Big Beautiful Bill is moving through Congress, and you may be surprised by some former Trump voters' reactions. Bulwark in-house policy wonk Jonathan Cohn joins Sarah to talk about the bill's negative consequences and why healthcare has been such a political albatross for the Republican Party. We also learn that plenty of voters are irritated by Congress only seeming to pass 'big' bills these days.


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I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark.

1:38.8

And this week, we're covering the Republicans' big, beautiful or not so beautiful bill, both its human consequences and its

1:47.9

political ones. Now, we spent some time on this with Annie Carney from the New York Times

1:52.4

a couple of weeks ago, but in that show, we were very focused on Republicans. This time,

1:57.9

we're focusing on two groups of Biden to Trump voters, and some of what we've heard

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