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The Louis Theroux Podcast

S5 EP2: Sean Penn on dining with Jack Nicholson and Putin, run-ins with the paparazzi, and his relationship with Zelenskyy

The Louis Theroux Podcast

Spotify Studios

Comedy, Society & Culture, Arts

4.3696 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Louis travels to Los Angeles to sit down with Hollywood heavyweight and international adventurer, Sean Penn. Renowned for award-winning roles in films like Milk, I Am Sam and Carlito’s Way, Sean discusses his colourful life and career, including dining with Jack Nicholson and Vladimir Putin in Moscow, his relationship with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his notorious run-ins with the paparazzi. Warnings: Strong language.   Links/Attachments:    Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzva_I8WPAg     Mystic River (2003)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NktJhrRYQ     Milk (2008)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5D07rmfwG0     Dead Man Walking (1995)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgvbfLNYumU     Carlito’s Way (1993)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZMd4Baswb4    The Apprentice (2024)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_OeYJXXlw0     Superpower (2023)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54GUzUUM3w     One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (1975)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrcDonY-B8     TV Show: ‘Euphoria’ (2019 – Present) - HBO  https://www.hbo.com/euphoria     Long Day’s Journey into Night (1962)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056196/     TV Show: ‘Normal People’ (2020) - BBC / Hulu  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1JQuWxt3cE    Shanghai Surprise (1986)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbW06buYw0Y     Song: ‘Like a Virgin’, Madonna (1984)  https://open.spotify.com/track/1ZPlNanZsJSPK5h9YZZFbZ     Becoming Madonna (2024) - Sky Documentaries   https://www.sky.com/watch/programme/4f309d01-57b4-42b1-92ca-82eef6ec747e     A Complete Unknown (2024)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdV-Cs5o8mc     Audiobook: ‘Chronicles, Volume I’, Bob Dylan (narrated by Sean Penn) (2004)  https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Chronicles-Volume-1-(Audio)/Bob-Dylan/9780743501613     TV Show: ‘Game of Thrones’ (2011-2019) - HBO  https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones     Sweet and Lowdown (1999)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3fokY0kP0     Daddio (2024)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJrr2amlFyc  One Battle After Another (2025)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-j8e9J5U0     TV Show: ‘Merlin’ (2008-2012) - BBC  https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00dq8tn/merlin-series-1-1-the-dragons-call?seriesId=b00mjlxv-structural-1-b00dr74v     I am Sam (2001)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir6_2EkhzAc    Credits:  Producer: Millie Chu   Assistant Producer: Maisie Williams  Production Manager: Francesca Bassett   Music: Miguel D’Oliveira   Audio Mixer: Tom Guest  Video Mixer: Scott Edwards   Shownotes compiled by Immie Webb  Executive Producer: Arron Fellows       A Mindhouse Production for Spotify   www.mindhouse.co.uk   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello. Are there any listeners there? Not funny. Hello, it's me, Louis Theru, and welcome back to the podcast,

0:13.3

affectionately known as the Louis Theroux podcast. Today I'm speaking to Hollywood heavyweight and buccaneering activist Sean Penn.

0:29.2

You may be familiar with Sean's work in films like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Mystic River, Milk, you've got to see Milk.

0:42.2

He plays the first openly gay elected official in America, I believe, Harvey Milk, the mayor of San Francisco, Dead Man Walking, Carlito's Way,

0:48.5

and many, many more. Over his career, Sean's earned numerous accolades, including two Oscars, a Golden Globe and an honorary Cesar.

0:58.0

Whatever that is. It's a French award, is it?

1:01.8

Sean has never been far from the headlines, not just for his incredible movies or his highly publicized relationships with Madonna, among others, about which we talk in the chat, and also his social and political activism.

1:15.0

His relationship, well, actually friendship, let's say, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, traveling to interview drug kingpin El Chapo Guzman, or most recently his vocal support of the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky.

1:28.9

We talk about these and more in our chat.

1:31.8

We recorded this chat in March this year at his house in Malibu.

1:35.8

Yes, it was an LTP location taping.

1:40.4

We drove up into the hills.

1:42.5

It was exciting.

1:43.4

It was like, I mean, I guess not that long after the Hollywood fires. And there he lived at the end of a drive in the hills. There's some of the areas around LA, they've got a very wild wilderness feel. And Sean's house had that kind of atmosphere about it. He was there as we set up our cameras,

2:03.1

smoking a little bit. We were in his man cave, a man cave about which I got significant envy.

2:11.6

Like it was almost like the bridge of Star Trek, like in the sense of he had his kind of, he had all his gadgets and accoutrements and everything was a, he had a cockpit kind of with buttons and a place for his cigarettes, a place for his remote control, things to fiddle with.

2:28.9

It was like the dream scenario for a certain kind of guy who's looking for his space.

2:35.8

I don't have one of those. I need one.

2:41.5

As we got ready, it was clear, you know, we take a while setting up.

2:46.3

He went off either to chop wood or to do some woodworking.

2:53.0

It's referenced in the chat, but he kind of fills a lot of his time by doing carpentry, making shelves, I guess, or cabin doing cabinet making.

3:01.8

Maybe like just, yeah, wood shop, they call that in America. Shop, like, it's a thing that you

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