This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This podcast. No one has to tell you that everything just feels like it's been spinning this year

and it's hard to figure out what next steps to take to move forward when so many

things have felt completely unknown and

shaky. So we want to invite you to take a weekend with your girlfriends and

just reset. Take a minute to analyze and take inventory of these last few months, the good and the hard,

and what's been lost and what's been gained. Spend time with Jesus, spend time with each other,

get encouraged, get equipped, and we want to do that with you right from your living

room.

So whether you have a house full of toddlers, you're a CEO, you lead a Bible study, this is for

you. So invite a few girlfriends over and watch If Lead together

on August 15th.

Tickets are on sale now at if Lead 2020.com

and they start at only $29.

That's If Lead 2020.com.

Okay, so today I am joined by one of my good friends. I often call him my brother, not because he's just my brother in Christ, but because we riff and fight like brother and sister.

A real fun kind of brother, sister, brotherly sister. riff and

if I'm a real fun kind of brother sister brotherly sisterly relationship Jenny Allen.

Yes, we've known each other for many years and so Matt I'm so excited to finally have you on the podcast. Matt Chandler. Matt,

I'm so excited to finally have you on the podcast.

Matt Chandler.

Couldn't hardly sleep last night.

Talking about it with Jenny Allen, are you kidding me?

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