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The Focus Group Podcast

S5 Ep10: It's Really Good and Really Bad (with Mark Leibovich)

The Focus Group Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

We're checking in on first-time Trump voters as Trump's reign of chaos continues. Some love what they're getting and think Democrats are out over their skis. Others are wondering when Trump will get around to fixing the economy. Atlantic staff writer and legendary DC chronicler Mark Leibovich joins Sarah to discuss what to make of it all.

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone.

0:07.8

Welcome to the Focus Group podcast.

0:09.8

I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark.

0:12.5

And this week, I'm going to check in on how voters have been talking about Donald Trump's first hundred days.

0:18.2

The first hundred days big milestone here. So Trump's approval rating is sitting

0:23.3

around 48% with his disapproval around 49%. So these numbers are worse than they were on

0:30.4

inauguration day, but better than I'd like them to be. I don't know. Under the hood,

0:36.5

the Biden to Trump voters we've been talking to

0:38.7

are splitting into a couple of different camps, including some who don't think they're getting

0:43.8

what they voted for, or maybe they're getting a little too much of what they voted for.

0:47.8

And so that's what we're going to explore today. My guest is Mark Leibovic, staff writer at the

0:53.9

Atlantic, and author of Thank You for Your Servitude, Donald Trump's Washington, and the price of submission.

1:00.5

He also wrote, and it's not in here, this town.

1:02.9

I remember sitting in my car reading this town on my, like, Kindle app, which was new for me then.

1:08.2

And I loved it.

1:09.2

I thought, who is this writer?

1:10.3

He's so good. Were you actually thought, who is this writery? So good.

1:11.4

Were you actually driving while you did this, Sarah? Because I would not want to, you know,

1:14.6

hazard you or any other motorists. I'm not the safest of drivers. Don't be on the road with me.

1:20.5

I'm reading people's books the whole way. You know what? If you're going to do it,

1:23.8

it might as well be mine. Might as well be yours. Yeah, it's great to be with you. Speaking of things that you've written, you wrote an article right after the election

1:30.4

called In Praise of Clarity.

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