S5 E7 - Standing Tall
American Nightmares
Gamut Podcast Network
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🗓️ 17 March 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Arvin, Carla and others see their day in court, but was justice served? Most of the Zion Society children are either uncooperative or unable to testify. Mike King and Reed Richards do everything they can to avoid re-traumatizing those who do testify. Finally, our story ends 35 years later, as several of the survivors meet at the opening of a new Children’s Justice Center in Ogden. They learn how their experiences have changed laws to better protect child victims and find healing together.
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| 1:16.6 | Some of the subject matter in this podcast is difficult, including suicide and sexual abuse of adults and children. |
| 1:23.9 | While the more graphic details will be left out, the specifics can be triggering. |
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| 1:31.8 | I mean, I just felt annihilated on that stand, you know, it was really hard. |
| 1:36.7 | So that, for me, made it the whole thing worth it, you know, that through my struggles and the hard time I had, |
| 1:43.5 | how many other children won't have to do that, you know? |
| 1:47.8 | Shelly was 15 years old when Arvin Shreve was arrested. |
| 1:51.8 | When you were the victim sitting on the stand and they're just so horrible to you, you're ashamed and you're scared and you feel like, you feel like a perpetrator |
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| 2:09.6 | had it harder during the Zion Society court proceedings than Shelly. But before I introduce her, |
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