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Okay, so we are finally recording a Scrum 5 podcast from Cape Town, what a place it is and what a game

we have in store on Saturday. The third and final test, a chance for Wales to create history

for the second week running. We're in Pivac today, he's made just one change to the start in 15.

Josh Adams replaces injured Alex Kufbert.

As for the box, it's 10 changes for them.

We'll have a Springbock legend in Victor Matfield to give us his perspective on the series, but first, during the week he announced his retirement.

He is Jamie Roberts to give us his thoughts on Wales.

Oh, good podcast by the way. So Jamie, we're sat here in the Southern Hotel in Cape Down Tuesday afternoon I came in as things go you come in you set up

The boys then arrive after training took a dip in the pool and lo and lo and behold who walks in with them

but you and your training kid talk me through that the day you announce your retirement

you're back on the pitch with the whale squad.

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