s5/e19 How to Think Like A Runner with Jeff Horowitz
The Running Explained Podcast
Running Explained
4.6 • 534 Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
This week I’m joined by Jeff Horowitz—"recovering attorney" turned running coach, author of Think Like a Runner, and someone who’s run over 200 marathons (yes, really!). Jeff shares stories from his global racing adventures (including an ultramarathon in Cairo where he was chased by wild dog s), his journey back from a devastating femur fracture, and why he thinks every runner—no matter their pace—deserves to take themselves seriously.
We get into:
Why so many runners struggle to call themselves runners
How your relationship with running evolves over time
What it means to truly trust your body again after injury
How to define success beyond speed or finish times
Why you do deserve good gear, a coach, and the “serious runner” stuff, no matter your pace
This was one of those conversations that just felt like a long exhale. If you’ve ever questioned whether you’re a “real” runner, or wrestled with how to stay in love with this sport as things shift and change, this episode is for you
📘 Grab Jeff’s book Think Like a Runner!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back, friends. Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of the Running Explained |
| 0:05.1 | podcast. I'm your host, Coach, and my guest this week is runner coach and author Jeff Horowitz. |
| 0:12.6 | And we're talking today about how to think like a runner. If you started running as an adult |
| 0:18.4 | or running more seriously as an adult, I find there's a very |
| 0:21.3 | specific inflection point at which you go from being somebody who runs to being a runner. |
| 0:28.5 | And we talk about all of that and more in this episode. |
| 0:32.8 | Jeff, welcome to the show. |
| 0:33.8 | I'm so excited to have you here. |
| 0:35.1 | Thank you. |
| 0:35.5 | Thank you so much for having you, Elizabeth. |
| 1:28.2 | So go ahead. We're going to hear a lot more about your journey, I'm sure, but briefly tell us, who are you? Who am I? Okay, so I am what we would call a recovering attorney. I spent 20 years working as an attorney, and I decided just didn't want to do that anymore. Instead, I want to work on my passion, which is fitness, which I've been building over the years. And I started as a little bit of a side gig. And then I decided to just do a deep dive. So I became a personal trainer and coach. And I teach running at George Washington University. And I've written a number of books on this. And so it's my passion. It's my love, it's now my profession. So I'd love to share it and obviously talk about it. So we're going to talk more about one of the books you, I say one of, because you are a multi-book author at this point. We're talking about one of the books you recently wrote called Think Like a Runner, which I really, really did enjoy reading. But before we get started, I would like to ask you some quick get-to-know-you questions. |
| 1:32.2 | And my first question, as always, is how did you become a runner? |
| 1:35.8 | So I became a runner like a lot of people I think become runners, just in a reaction to some |
| 1:40.4 | negative things gone in my life. |
| 1:42.1 | So some people start running to lose weight or to get their mind straight or to just |
| 1:48.0 | experience the outdoors, something positive. |
| 1:51.0 | And it was kind of all of that. |
| 1:52.0 | I was first year at law school, you know, pours a church mouse and couldn't afford a fancy gym here in Washington, D.C., |
| 1:58.0 | where I now live and where I came to law school. |
| 2:00.0 | So I put on a pair of sneakers and I literally just went for a run around the block, just looping around the block. And then I ran down the street and back. And before you know, I was pulling out a map. And here in D.C., we have the Potomac River, multiple bridges, and I figured out a loop, and I did a loop and I just fell in love with it and decided I'm going to run a marathon. |
| 2:19.9 | In fact, the marathon is the... bridges and I figured out a loop and I did a loop and I just fell in love with it and decided I'm |
| 2:18.3 | going to run a marathon. In fact, the marathon is the very first race I ever ran, any kind. |
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