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Conspiracyland

S4E32: Episode 3: "It’s Not What We Thought It Was"

Conspiracyland

Yahoo News

Medical Ailments, Biden, Conspiracy, Yahoo News, Investigative Journalism, Havana Syndrome, Conspiracyland, Michael Isikoff, Russian Intelligence, News, Vladimr Putin, Cuba, Obama, Trump, Conspiracy Theories

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The third and final installment of the series recounts how senior U.S. officials became increasingly dubious about sensational claims about Havana Syndrome pointing to the lack of any hard evidence that a secret microwave weapon even exists. It features interviews with Fulton Armstrong, former CIA analyst, Jim McGovern, U.S. congressman, Mark Zaid, national security lawyer, and John Cohen, former Department of Homeland Security intelligence chief.

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When I was in Havana, there was a syndrome that we could call it the kubalsai syndrome.

0:42.3

Full Armstrong is a former CIA analyst who served in Cuba in the late 1980s and early

0:47.5

1990s.

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At the time, of course, there was no U.S. Embassy in Havana.

0:51.9

So he and a small contingent of diplomats and intelligence officers worked at the U.S.

0:56.6

intersection in the Swiss Embassy.

0:59.1

While there, some of his colleagues came to believe their food supply was contaminated.

1:04.1

We were required by U.S. regulations to purchase food only in the government-operated diplomatic

1:09.8

stores.

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And it's true that sometimes the food had sort of this stink to it.

1:15.5

And we called it savoura kubalsai, the flavour, the taste of kubalsai, which is the company

1:21.1

that ran these grocery stores.

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A conspiracy theory soon took root.

1:25.7

There was an aferious plot afoot by Cuban intelligence to harm U.S. officials, to make

1:30.4

them sick or possibly even worse.

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