S4E25.5: Judgement at Nuremberg

Kill James Bond!

November, Abigail, and Devon

Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Tv & Film:film Reviews

4.7 • 615 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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The rest of this bonus episode is available on our reasonably-priced patreon! We return once more to the Brains Dojo to talk about Abby Mann and Stanley Kramer's 1961 dramatisation of the Nuremberg trials. The year is 1947. Hitler, Goebbels, and the top brass are all dead. The trials have been going on for two years, and now we're down to the business of judging lawyers, doctors and judges. How much did they know, and when? Who bears ultimate responsibility for the crimes of the Third Reich? ----- Friend of the show Bella, a refugee evacuated from Afghanistan in 2021, is raising money for her gender confirmation surgery! Anything you can give would be hugely appreciated! https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/team-bella ----- Check out friend of the show Mattie's new book Simplicity here, or wherever fine graphic novels are sold! ----- FREE PALESTINE Hey, Devon here. In our home, we talk a lot about how insane everything feels, and agonise constantly over what can be done to best help the Palestinians trapped in Gaza facing the full brunt of genocidal violence. My partner Rebecca has put together a list of four fundraisers you can contribute to- all of them are at work on the ground doing what they can. -Palestinian Communist Youth Union, which is doing a food and water effort, and is part of the official communist party of Palestinehttps://www.gofundme.com/f/to-preserve-whats-left-of-humanity-global-solidarity -Water is Life, a water distribution project in North Gaza affiliated with an Indigenous American organization and the Freedom Flotillahttps://www.waterislifegaza.org/ -Vegetable Distribution Fund, which secured and delivers fresh veg, affiliated with Freedom Flotilla alsohttps://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=1102739514947848 -Thamra, which distributes herb and veg seedlings, repairs and maintains water infrastructure, and distributes food made with replanted veg patcheshttps://www.gofundme.com/f/support-thamra-cultivating-resilience-in-gaza ----- WEB DESIGN ALERT Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ Kill James Bond is hosted by November Kelly, Abigail Thorn, and Devon. You can find us at https://killjamesbond.com , as well as on our Bluesky and X.com the every app account

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0:00.0	I feel ashamed that such things could have taken place in my country.
0:04.0	There can never be a justification for them, not in generations, not in centuries.
0:11.0	But... Hello and welcome to another episode of Kill James Bond.
0:33.0	I am November Kelly.
0:34.4	I am joined as always by my friends Abigail Thorne and Devon.
0:38.1	Gooden Tag, Leibling listener.
0:41.4	Gooden Tag, everyone.
0:43.5	Gooden Tag indeed. Yes. It's a bonus episode.
0:46.8	And as you can tell by our friendly German accents, what we're going to do this time is untold horrors. We're going to talk
0:56.3	about the horrors. Who's to blame him for the Holocaust?
0:58.3	Oh, it turns out, maybe it says here everyone. Turns out the entire world. Yeah.
1:03.0	Yeah.
1:04.0	Sort of differing levels.
1:05.0	Apparently, yeah. Which I don't really agree with, but okay. Well, we'll get to this,
1:09.6	but we watched judgment at Nuremberg, Stanley Kramer's 1961, drama about the kind of subsequent Nuremberg trials, and I got to say, we used to make message films, right? Oh, what a movie, too. Like, what a fucking, listen to go watch judgment at Nuremberg and then come back. It's so fucking good. It was such a good movie. It's a three-hour tome. This came about because frequently my beloved partner, Rebecca, will go to bed early for work, and I'm left at a loose end for a couple of hours in the evening.
1:44.9	So I watch a movie and I don't want to watch any modern movies because I want to watch them
1:47.7	with Becker.
1:48.9	So I've been going back and watching a lot of like, you're old, you're black and whites.
1:53.0	This is why I watched Citizen Kane a little bit recently.
1:57.4	This is why I saw singing in the rain, his girl, his girl Friday, and then finally
2:03.4	judgment at Nuremberg. And this, it grabbed my heart with both hands. And I was like,
2:07.6	fuck, I kind of have to talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, it's very contemporary too. It's like a timely
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