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S402: The Shawcross Letters

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Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2019

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Arthur Shawcross is one of America's most notorious serial killers. This is the story about one of his closest friends. Who do you turn to when your deepest fantasies involve murder and cannibalism? It's an affliction most people can't relate to—unless you're a serial killer. For John Paul Fay, that confidant was a killer named Arthur Shawcross. In a series of letters, Fay confesses to Shawcross his desire to kill, yet he never crosses that line. My friend John Taylor interviewed John Paul Fay and asked him, what keeps him from acting on his disturbing urges. This episode is frightening. If you enjoyed it as much as I did, please check out the Twisted Podcast. You won't be disappointed. The episode you're about to listen to is borrowed from the Twisted Podcast with John Taylor. You can read John Paul Fay's book titled the Shawcross Letters: My Journey Into The Mind Of Evil. *Warning this episode contains extremely graphic material including descriptions of murder and cannibalism. Listen to my full conversation with John Taylor on my Patreon feed. Alison Sweeney joins us to talk about the Shawcross Letters and her new project “Chronicle Mysteries” on Hallmark Movie and Mysteries. The host of a true crime podcast embarks on her latest project, and uncovers a decades-old murder while investigating a mysterious disappearance, in “Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered,” a new original premiering Sunday, February 17, (9 p.m. ET/PT) on Hallmark Movies & Mysteries. Alison Sweeney (“Days of Our Lives,” “The Biggest Loser”) executive produces and stars, along with Benjamin Ayres (“Saving Hope”). The Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered premieres Sunday, February 17 at 9pm/8c The Chronicle Mysteries: The Wrong Man premieres Sunday, February 24 at 9pm/8c The Chronicle Mysteries: Vines that Bind premieres Sunday, March 3 at 9pm/8c Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Apple. Hey guys, here's one more bonus episode before season 4 starts.

0:15.0

It's from The Twisted Podcast with John Taylor.

0:19.0

I asked John if I could stitch together two of his episodes and play them on my feed.

0:24.0

Lucky for you, he said yes.

0:28.3

But before we start the episode, I met up with John at a coffee shop

0:32.4

to talk about his story.

0:34.0

And we have a celebrity who listens to the show.

0:38.0

Her name is Allison Sweeney from Days of Our Lives and the Biggest Loser.

0:43.2

And she has a new project, and she's going to tell us all about it

0:46.4

at the end of the show.

0:48.0

So stick around. So you've actually worked in law enforcement for many years?

0:58.0

Yeah, so I mean I'm also I write True Crime as well as the podcast and previously I was an agent with the Secret Service

1:04.8

many years ago.

1:05.8

I'm currently a private investigator license here in North Carolina so I do still

1:09.5

actively investigate criminal cases. And your show is friggin' awesome.

1:15.0

And so I wanted the world.

1:16.5

Oh, the world.

1:18.6

Because the whole world.

1:19.4

The present radio world to listen to it. Now, I really wanted my audience to check it out

1:25.0

because we've been wanting to collaborate for a long time.

1:28.0

And I listened to two of your episodes that really blew me away and I wanted to share it with my audience.

1:35.0

Can you tell me about the episodes we're going to play?

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