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How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

S4 Maria Romanenko: ‘We were just a peaceful country, living our life like you guys are’

How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

BBC

Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Maria Romanenko talks about fleeing Ukraine due to the full-scale Russian invasion, how she has settled into life in the UK, and her plans to return. If you’re affected by any of the issues raised in this episode there’s more information at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

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0:00.0

In this new BBC Sounds podcast, we investigate a 90s legal scandal that shook Scotland.

0:08.0

As court cases collapsed, rumors spread that secretly gay legal figures were involved in a conspiracy.

0:14.0

The rumor was that there was this cabal of gay judges and senior legal people who would arrange to get these guys off.

0:23.0

A judge resigned, a police station was robbed and journalists were arrested.

0:29.0

This was a question of the integrity of Scottish justice.

0:33.0

And at the centre of the scandal was a talented charismatic lawyer with a dark secret.

0:38.0

Bob Henderson, Bob Henderson. Bob Henderson, Bob Henderson.

0:42.0

He caused so much damage not just to me, but to loads of people.

0:46.0

That's shiny Bob, the devil's advocate.

0:49.0

Listen now on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:54.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

1:00.0

BBC Five Live.

1:02.0

How do you cope with Ellison John?

1:05.0

Hello everyone and welcome to How Do You cope with Ellison John.

1:09.0

We're very excited for you to hear this week's discussion with Maria Romanenko about her experience.

1:16.0

Being one of the first people to flee the war in Ukraine.

1:21.0

But before we get on to that, Ellison, I'm going to catch up as we always do.

1:25.0

So Ellison, how are you doing? How's your shame?

1:27.0

I'm in a very good mood.

1:28.0

You look very summary.

1:29.0

Thank you.

1:30.0

I would say a good mood that is almost embarrassingly good.

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