S4 Katie Piper: ‘Why don’t I let go of what I thought should happen and start living in what is happening?’

How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

BBC

Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

5 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 90 minutes

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In the second episode of this series Elis and John chat to broadcaster and author Katie Piper about her story of recovery, and some of the things that have helped her cope. This episode contains strong language that some people might find offensive. If you’re affected by any of the issues raised in this episode there’s more information at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

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0:00.0	In this new BBC Sounds podcast, we investigate a 90s legal scandal that shook Scotland.
0:08.0	As court cases collapsed, rumors spread that secretly gay legal figures were involved in a conspiracy.
0:14.0	The rumor was that there was this cabal of gay judges and senior legal people who would arrange to get these guys off.
0:23.0	A judge resigned, a police station was robbed and journalists were arrested.
0:29.0	This was a question of the integrity of Scottish justice.
0:33.0	And at the centre of the scandal was a talented charismatic lawyer with a dark secret.
0:38.0	Bob Henderson, Bob Henderson. Bob Henderson, Bob Henderson.
0:42.0	He caused so much damage not just to me, but to loads of people.
0:46.0	That's shiny Bob, the devil's advocate.
0:49.0	Listen now on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:54.0	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.
1:01.0	BBC Five Live.
1:03.0	How do you cope with Ellison John?
1:06.0	Hello and welcome to the second episode of this series of How Do You Cool.
1:11.0	This is a podcast where we speak to guests about some of the challenges
1:14.0	they've overcome throughout their lives.
1:16.0	And in this episode we're chatting to writer, broadcaster and activist Katie Pike.
1:21.0	Before that, as always, I want to start by asking John, how's your shame?
1:26.0	Well, thank you very much for asking and to any new listeners.
1:29.0	That's our shorthand for how are you doing?
1:32.0	Well, it's a while now since we recorded the sort of episode one catch-up.
1:38.0	How's your shame special?
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