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The Focus Group Podcast

S4 Ep40: Derangement vs. Impairment (with Tim Miller)

The Focus Group Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Joe Biden's debate performance was a disaster...and voters noticed. Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller bring you the voters' reactions and a frank discussion about the risks and rewards of Biden stepping aside as the nominee...because something in this race has to change.

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0:00.0

Part of what I never understand is that people who believe, as I believe, that Donald Trump is an

0:05.2

existential threat to democracy don't look in the mirror and say, am I the best person to do this?

0:10.4

And maybe you don't get to their heights without looking in the mirror and having that answer always be yes.

0:14.4

But I would say no, if there's somebody better who can do this, who can win,

0:19.2

like let's talk about what that looks like. Hello everyone and welcome to the focus group podcast.

0:28.0

I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the Bullwork,

0:31.0

and this week we're going to have a hard conversation about

0:34.4

where the anti-Trump coalition goes from here because there is no sugarcoding it

0:40.5

friends Joe Biden's debate performance was really bad. It's been clear

0:44.6

to longtime listeners this podcast that voters are not convinced Biden is up to

0:48.9

being president until he's 86 years old and that was painfully on display in the debate and in our focus groups

0:56.1

afterward. However, these same voters who universally panned Biden's performance still believed Donald Trump was a liar and a narcissist and a psychopath.

1:07.4

Even though his debate performance was more quote unquote normal than usual,

1:12.1

Trump's manifest liabilities. normal than usual.

1:17.0

Trump's manifest liabilities make him eminently beatable. The question is whether Joe Biden is the best candidate to do that.

1:22.0

And democracy is too important and the threat

1:24.7

Trump poses too extreme to not have an honest conversation about how voters are

1:29.4

thinking about the election after last week's debate. So while I don't want this show to be a gratuitous

1:34.2

pile on, I do want us to honestly and unflinchingly consider the current landscape.

1:41.4

So to do this, I welcome back truth teller and my good friend Tim Miller,

1:46.4

host of the Daily Bullwork Podcast. Timmy, thanks for being here.

1:49.7

Hey Sarah, yeah, you know, being honest is tough.

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