S4 Ep17: No One's Looking Out for You (with Brian Stelter)
The Focus Group Podcast
The Bulwark
4.8 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2024
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Brian Stelter, author of Network of Lies: The Epic Saga of Fox News, Donald Trump, and the Battle for American Democracy joins Sarah to discuss the past, present, and future of conservative media.
Show notes
Disclaimer: This episode discusses several members of the Murdoch family. Kathryn Murdoch is an investor in The Bulwark.
Network of Lies: The Epic Saga of Fox News, Donald Trump, and the Battle for American Democracy
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the focus group podcast I'm Sarah Longwell |
| 0:10.4 | publisher of the bulwark and this week we're talking about Fox News. |
| 0:16.4 | Specifically, Trump voters who think Fox has lost its way and they've turned to other sources of news that they can trust. |
| 0:25.2 | But I know what you're thinking. No, the answer is not. They became big Jake Tapper |
| 0:30.0 | fans and are watching a lot of CNN now. These voters think Fox has gone woke. They're |
| 0:35.6 | irate that Fox called the 2020 election for Biden. They all think Fox caved in |
| 0:41.0 | the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit and they also think they should have covered |
| 0:45.0 | the Dominion machines more because they think they were so fraudulent. |
| 0:49.0 | And finally they're also really mad about Fox firing Tucker Carlson. |
| 0:53.7 | Now this is going to be one of those shows that's hard for some people to hear, |
| 0:57.1 | but I wanted to do it because it gets to a very important piece of MAGA voter |
| 1:01.8 | psychology that is abundantly clear in the focus groups we listen to. |
| 1:06.0 | These voters live in an entirely different media ecosystem than you or I. |
| 1:11.0 | And while many are quick to blame Fox News for why MAGA |
| 1:14.8 | voters are steeped in conspiracy theories, it actually goes quite a bit |
| 1:18.9 | deeper. My guest today is Brian Stelter, author of Network of Lies, the epic saga of Fox News, Donald Trump, and the |
| 1:27.1 | Battle for American Democracy, and the producer for the Morning Show on Apple TV Plus. Brian, thank you so much for being here. |
| 1:34.4 | It is literally an honor to be here. This is one of my favorite podcasts on the |
| 1:38.4 | planet. The planet! Amazing. The planet! The planet is a great |
| 1:41.8 | casting and it's because I've learned so much about |
| 1:44.3 | voters thanks to you so let's do it all right let's do it so um can I ask you a |
| 1:48.1 | question about the morning show real quick I probably can't answer if you can try the |
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