You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. All okay? Yeah, really good. Yeah, we're just gonna crack on and keep it as natural as we can really. So if you're happy we'll go for it, okay? Yeah, course.

That's Nick Tompkins, the Dragon Center on loan from Saracens. I'm Garthry Sowen. This is the Scrum 5 podcast. Good chat with

Tomkins actually we discuss his upbringing,

how come he's ended up playing for Wales despite playing for the England A team,

his health issues and his long-term ambitions,

including how he's going to cope with those dark winter nights during lockdown.

So let's track on. flat, yeah, where are you? Where are we looking at? What are you?

What are you based? Flat, iconic bay.

Oh man, you're in the mix then.

Yeah, well, yeah.

Unfortunately, I mean, lockdown doesn't help, but there's a, I think there's a weatherspoons

quite near, which is quite nice.

When I first moved to Cardiff, like 15 years ago I'm West Whaley and I told people I was going down the bay.

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