S4 E6 Hearing the Voice of God, a special extra episode with Richard Bushman (D&C 3-5)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
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🗓️ 26 January 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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In this episode Richard Bushman and Kerry discuss the ways that God worked with Joseph Smith to help him learn, grow, and do what he needed to do. They explore the loss of the 116 pages and the role that Martin Harris played in that and in the Restoration, and the story of Lucy Harris, a law suit, and how all of those things combined to create the pressure that led to the loss of the 116 pages. They also talk about the lessons that Joseph Smith, and we, needed to learn in order to not fall prey to this same kind of mistake. They also talk about how the revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants are like God speaking into our ears.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the scriptures a real podcast. This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that have made them more real for us because we believe that helps us draw more power out of them and we need all the help we can get. |
| 0:20.8 | I'm your host, Kerry Mulestein, and I am honored and excited to have with us as our guest today, Dr. Richard Bushman. |
| 0:27.4 | Welcome, Dr. Bushman. |
| 0:29.5 | Thank you. Happy to be here. |
| 0:31.8 | I'm happy to have you here. |
| 0:34.4 | Maybe I'll tell our audience just a little bit about you and then we'd |
| 0:38.1 | love to hear from you a little bit more but uh... dr bushman is really an |
| 0:42.8 | eminent historian |
| 0:44.5 | uh... he he taught at uh... columbia the the governor morris professor emeritus of |
| 0:50.3 | history at columbia university |
| 0:52.4 | he taught at b y and Harvard and Boston and |
| 0:55.5 | the University of Delaware you may know him as the author of what I think is |
| 1:01.1 | the best biography written on Joseph Smith the rough stone rolling a book that |
| 1:06.3 | as I very much appreciate and I'm actually had been working my way through uh... on the road with rustin rolling |
| 1:13.6 | where |
| 1:14.5 | uh... dr bushman talks about |
| 1:16.8 | uh... what it was like as says that was happening |
| 1:20.1 | uh... also just personally say i was fortunate uh... i think it was in two thousand |
| 1:24.6 | eight so that's a while ago but uh... dr bushman came fairly regularly to BYU to do history workshops. |
| 1:35.0 | And I was fortunate to be part of one of those one summer and just learned a tremendous amount, |
| 1:41.9 | both about the history he had us right and he if i remember |
| 1:46.2 | correctly i wanted to do just book of abraham stuff and you said one of your topics has to be |
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