S4 E58 Martyrdom and Mantle (D&C 135-136)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
4.8 • 539 Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Join Steve Harper and Kerry for the cruise of a lifetime! They will lecture on the covenant in all dispensations and what it has to do with you. Together we will go to Mayan ruins and fantastic snorkeling and beaches, sailing out of Miami. Go to RestorationTravels.com and look for the cruise on the covenant.
In this episode Kerry and Brett Dowdle talk about the Martyrdom of Joseph Smith and the beautiful section that describes his miraculous ministry. They then talk about the succession to Brigham Young. They discuss Brigham Young and his preparation and the keys and the Quorum of the Twelve. They discuss what Arthur Haycock, Brett's grandfather, can tell us about succession from his journals. This carries over into understanding the succession we have just witnessed and the blessings that we have in a modern prophet.
We are grateful for our executive producers, J. Parke, D. Watson, D. Van Blerkom, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real podcast. |
| 0:12.1 | This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that have become real to us |
| 0:15.9 | because we think that helps us draw more power out of them and we need all the help we can get. |
| 0:20.6 | I'm your host, Kerry Mulestein, and I'm so glad to have with us a special guest, first-time guests for us. This is Brett Dattle. Thanks for being with us, Brett. It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks, Carrie. It is our pleasure. Let me tell you just a little bit about Brett, but then we're going to ask Kim to tell us more about himself. So Brett works for the church's church history department. |
| 0:39.2 | I always say it that way because I am in a college that Brett, but then we're going to ask him to tell us more about himself. So Brett works for the church's |
| 0:38.2 | church history department. I always say it that way because I am in a college that also has a |
| 0:42.1 | church history department at BYU. That's not where Brett is at. You're in the church history |
| 0:47.4 | department that the church has employed by the church to work on church history, right? |
| 0:52.1 | Right. Yeah. So I've been there for about 10 years now. |
| 0:56.9 | Started as an intern in 2015 while I was finishing my doctorate. |
| 1:01.6 | I did doctorate in American History at TCU. |
| 1:05.0 | All right. |
| 1:05.6 | And got picked up by the Joseph Smith papers and got to help out on several volumes, including |
| 1:12.5 | the last documents volume. |
| 1:15.3 | And as a part of that, got to write the introduction and do the annotation for Section |
| 1:21.4 | 135. |
| 1:23.3 | And they just haven't gotten rid of me since. |
| 1:27.1 | So right now I'm doing some work on Brigham Young for the church history department |
| 1:31.7 | and some letters that he sent to the saints. |
| 1:34.1 | But it's great to be here. |
| 1:37.2 | And my wife and I and our three kids, we live in Saratoga Springs. |
| 1:41.5 | We just moved out there from Orham earlier this year and just enjoying life. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Kerry Muhlestein, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Kerry Muhlestein and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.