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The Scriptures Are Real

S4 E56 The Power that Seals: Husband and Wife in the Order of the Priesthood (D&C 131)

The Scriptures Are Real

Kerry Muhlestein

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Courses

4.8540 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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In this episode Kerry and Phil Allred talk about the order of marriage that all must enter into to receive full exaltation. They talk about how both men and women enter into what is called an order of the priesthood. They talk about what this means in the lives of families and marriages everywhere.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the scriptures a real podcast.

0:12.1

This is the podcast where we talk about elements in the scriptures that have become real to us,

0:16.1

which helps us draw more power out of them and we need all the help we can get.

0:19.8

I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein, and I'm so happy to have in studio with us, my colleague and

0:24.8

dear friend, and for the time being at least neighbor and carpool guy, this is Dr. Philip

0:30.9

Allred. Thanks for being with us, Phil.

0:32.6

Carrie, always a pleasure. I love the chance to talk shop. Anytime we can kick around

0:37.4

the doctrine of Christ

0:38.1

together is a happy time for me. And we do love doing that together. So we were colleagues

0:43.9

at the Jerusalem Center together. And our families just got really close. We fell in love with

0:51.3

doing things with each other, with talking about the gospel with each other. I was so thrilled when Phil, he was teaching it. Well, let me just say, did his Ph.D., well, undergrad at BYU, Ph.D. at the University of Notre Dame in theology. Masters. Oh, Masters. That's right. Sorry about that. That's okay. And so then where was the PhD? The doctorate was Idaho State in political science. Oh, in political science. Okay, I switched those two. Sorry. And then I was teaching at BYU, Idaho for a very long time. When he came down here to Provo, ended up still looking for the place you're going to buy, but currently renting just a couple blocks for me. And so that's made it so we can drive in together and spend a lot of time together. And I love that. So what else should we know about you? A little divine intervention there to ease me into. I've been pleading. So blessed us. What else should we know about you? You know, I just, I had a blast here as an undergrad.

1:45.0

I struggled as a student.

1:46.6

So I say I had a blast, but I struggled as a student.

1:49.2

But then as I worked through that, did my best, I met Jennifer.

1:53.6

And my studies took off after I met Jennifer.

1:57.0

I mean, I tell you what, it's hilarious.

1:59.2

I had a recently had a chance to serve in a couple different student-based units in the church.

2:05.6

I had served as a counselor in a YSA stake presidency and then went to Jerusalem to be with you guys and the wonderful students there.

2:14.6

When I came back, I was called to be the president of a

2:17.7

married student's stake. And the reason I bring this up is my wife, she said, after, after probably a

2:23.8

couple months or so of me being the president of this married student's take, she took me aside and she

2:28.8

said, hey, what's going on? You're, you're not as busy as you were when you, in your other calling. And I said,

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