You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds.

Nick, what an inspiring background you have behind you.

It's professional background.

No tassels. No tassels no no moving bored behind your back just very very

very very beige and boring and not suitable for the Scrumify Podcast.

For those of us who have no idea what I'm on about,

we're referring to Wayne Pivac post a championship celebration where he did a Zoom interview with the BBC, and well we got to see the

delight of his living room, didn't we not?

We did indeed.

Should we ask him about it?

Well, yes, but I also think you know we are the

BBC we should be professional the discussion should be about rugby we're not here to

trivialise the head coach of Wales, you know, this should be a serious interview with him because, you know, we have got him on the pod.

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