S4 E2 God Speaks (but how do we receive it?) (Doctrine and Covenants 1)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
4.8 • 540 Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Get a discount on all D&C and Church History books and products (including Kerry's on the First Vision called "I Saw the Lord") by going to Seagullbook.com and using the code KERRY2025.
In this episode Kerry interviews Robin Jensen from the Church History Department of the Church. Together they explore what it means to receive revelation from God, and how God worked with Joseph Smith as He revealed truths to His children. They talk about what that would have looked like for the early Saints. They delve into the simultaneously sacred and mundane nature of God speaking to His prophet, and how important it is that God does speak to prophets. They investigate the intimate nature of revelations, and the process of them becoming public. They speak about how this process applies to us in our personal revelation. They show how what we learn about Joseph receiving revelation echoes our own lives and is valuable for us to learn about. They discuss how Section One was revealed to be a preface for the D&C, and then they talk about how revelations came in general, and how that can help us understand the revelations we will study this year. Robin leads us through a discussion of what the Doctrine and Covenants is in general. They also explore the resources that are available as we study revelations this year.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the scriptures are real podcasts. |
| 0:11.7 | This is the podcast where we talk about elements of the scriptures that help them become more real to us so that we can draw more power out of them because we need all the help we can get. |
| 0:19.0 | I'm your host, Kerry Mielstein, and I'm so happy to have with me today, a friend and a great scholar, Dr. Robin Jensen. Thanks for being with us, Robin. It's good to be here. We want to thank our sponsor for this week. The episode is brought to you by Siegel Book. I love Segal Book. You get great books there. You get them on discount. It's a fantastic place. |
| 0:39.0 | And we've arranged with them that right now, if you go to Siegelbook.com, any church history or doctrine and covenants titles, including my own on the First Vision, any of those are 15% off if you put in the code, carry 2025. |
| 0:54.1 | So that's K e r r why |
| 0:55.4 | twenty twenty five at seagull book dot com and you'll get 15% off |
| 0:59.9 | so let me tell everyone just a little bit about you and then you can tell us more |
| 1:03.3 | about yourself uh... dr jensen has a phd in history from the university of |
| 1:08.0 | Utah |
| 1:09.0 | and has spent uh... a number of years you'll have to tell us how many, but a long time now, |
| 1:13.7 | working for the Joseph Smith Papers Project as one of the editors of various volumes and just helping the whole project move forward, |
| 1:20.8 | and now working on other projects for the church. So he's in the church's the church's Church History department and does fantastic stuff with church history. |
| 1:29.5 | He and I have worked together a bit because he did edit the volume that has the Book of Abraham |
| 1:37.4 | papers in it. |
| 1:39.0 | And so we've interacted about preparing that volume a little bit, but especially afterwards as we've done some interviews together and some uh... |
| 1:47.7 | uh... different uh... uh... things together robin has helped me with uh... he |
| 1:52.6 | helped me with my book on it and uh... uh... you get help bc where i could |
| 1:56.2 | improve and go better just a great person to work with uh... great scholar, a great friend. I'm glad to have |
| 2:02.6 | us with us. But what else should we know about you, Robin? Well, my, my work is my life, |
| 2:10.7 | my hobby, everything. I do a lot for the, I did a lot for the Joseph Smith Pith papers um i started in 2004 so 20 years ago um uh the joseph |
| 2:22.2 | smith papers uh recently completed where we are uh essentially done we're posting a little bit online |
| 2:27.8 | but uh that was just a dream come true to work on the jose smith papers um and now i am |
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