S4 E16 I Will Be in Your Midst, Susan Black on God Bringing Key Converts (D&C 30-36)
The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
4.8 • 539 Ratings
🗓️ 6 April 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Celebrate Easter, and get something more out of it this year by getting the newly released audiobook version of my book the Easter Connection, available at DeseretBook.com. This book will help you think through Christ's suffering in a different way and see how He helps you in a different way. It doesn't cost much and will bless your life and enhance your Easter celebration. Consider staring to listen to it on Holy Thursday.
Next week we will have a video every day that helps us celebrate Christ during Holy Week.
Consider joining us on our Palm Sunday walk. It will be held on Palm Sunday (April 13), at 4 pm. It will begin on the Murdock Canal Trail, at the Lindon View Trailhead (330 N. 780, Lindon). You may want to come early to find parking. Additional parking can be found at the church nearby (325 Canal Drive, Lindon). Some palm fronds will be provided, but there will not be enough for everyone. Julianne Muhlestein and Andrew Skinner will lead and teach at this event.
In this episode Kerry and Susan Easton Black go through a series of revelations aimed at new converts of the Church. They discuss who these people are, helping them and their stories come to life so that we can understand more from the revelations themselves. The focus is on the people and the context, with the hope that each person will take that context and dive into the scriptures armed with the ability to draw even more out of them. They talk about the things that helped these converts either stay strong or stray, and lessons we can learn from that. They explore the lives and conversions of men like David Whitmer, Peter Whitmer, Parley P. Pratt, William McLellan, Thomas B Marsh, Orson Pratt, Sidney Rigdon, and others. They talk about the consequences those who strayed had in the suffering of others, and lessons we can learn from that. They also discuss early conferences, which is wonderful timing since we are experiencing General Conference right now.
We are grateful for our generous donors who make the podcast possible, and for our executive producer B. Fisher, and for Launchpad Consulting Studios for producing the podcast, and for Rich Nicholls who composed and plays the music for the podcast.
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| 0:00.0 | We talk about making the scriptures real, and this goes back to what we talked about at the beginning |
| 0:04.7 | with your book, like, the people in here are real. And for me, when I come to know these real people, |
| 0:13.1 | and I say, okay, I'm a real person, they're a real person, they have things they struggle with, |
| 0:16.6 | I have things I struggle with. When they become real to me, the things that they learn, |
| 0:20.4 | I can apply them to myself better. And one of the fears I always have about this podcast or any podcast |
| 0:26.4 | is that it becomes a replacement for studying the scriptures. And that's not what we want. But |
| 0:30.7 | what I think you've done so masterly for us here, and I want to thank you for it, is you've |
| 0:35.6 | helped us make these people real. |
| 0:43.1 | So now we want our audience to go in and really dig into these scriptures, knowing the real stories of these people. |
| 0:57.1 | Hello, I'm welcome to the Scriptures A Real podcast. |
| 1:04.0 | This is the podcast where we talk about things that make the scriptures more real to us so we can draw more power out of them because we need all the help we can get. |
| 1:08.9 | I'm your host, Carrie Mulestein, and I'm so happy to have back with us a returning guest. |
| 1:10.6 | We have Dr. Susan Black. Thank you for being with us. |
| 1:12.1 | Oh, thanks, Carrie. |
| 1:12.9 | It's a treat to be here, actually. |
| 1:14.9 | Well, our listeners, we won't do a huge introductions. |
| 1:18.7 | Dr. Black is well known for all of her church history publications and so many wonderful |
| 1:25.4 | things taught in our college for a long time. |
| 1:27.1 | She was with us when we did |
| 1:28.1 | sections 10 and 11, so we'd refer you to that to learn a little bit more about her. But maybe I can |
| 1:33.0 | just share a couple of things that our audience may be interested in. Before I do that, let me just |
| 1:39.5 | let everyone know that this is the week that we're doing now, the Sunday of it. So usually I |
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