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American Nightmares

S4 E1 - The Fire: A Second Look

American Nightmares

Gamut Podcast Network

True Crime

4.510.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to 22 Hours: A Second Look, where we revisit our original season with original host Megan Cloherty. In this episode, Megan shares why we're revisiting the case of the Savopoulos family and their housekeeper and she shares part 1 of her conversation with one of the Savopoulus' surviving daughters.

New episodes will drop every Tuesday.


Original Episode

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It began with a fire. A man driving through an upscale neighborhood in Washington, D.C., in 2015 spotted smoke pouring from one of the homes. It was the first sign something terrible had happened on Woodland Drive. This episode is written and produced by reporters Megan Cloherty and Jack Moore. Julia Ziegler is the content adviser.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, and thanks for finding the American Nightmare series.

0:04.0

I'm Megan Clowardy, and if you've listened to this podcast before, we are relaunching the first season with new content, calling it 22 hours a second look.

0:13.0

It has been 10 years since the murders of Sava and Amy Savopoulos, their son, Philip, and their housekeeper Vera Figueroa in their D.C. mansion.

0:23.1

At the time, I worked as a reporter for WTOP in D.C. And in this re-release, you'll hear updates

0:29.5

and voices that you haven't heard before. We also have a new season coming next year.

0:35.8

This podcast is a retelling of the trial of Darren Wendt, who was convicted in their

0:40.8

killings and is serving four life sentences.

0:44.2

As we relaunch, we're giving listeners an update on the Savopoulos family's two surviving

0:48.9

daughters, Abigail and Katarina.

0:51.9

In the first interview, given by the Savopoulos family since the crime, Abigail spoke

0:57.2

with me exclusively about a range of topics, from where she was on the day her family

1:02.6

was killed, to how she's navigating her loss and the specific challenges of parenting without

1:08.5

her parents.

1:10.3

You'll also hear more about what happened when I reached out to the killer,

1:13.6

Darren Wint, who is now in prison, and learn what happened to the family's mansion in Washington, D.C.

1:19.6

We speak with Sava's former assistant, Jordan Wallace,

1:23.6

and we'll also pull back the curtain, so to speak, on how Jack Julie and I created the original podcast and the challenges we ran into, since this was the first time we'd ever attempted a project like this.

1:36.5

Listeners who were drawn to the legal and journalistic aspects of this podcast may find our explanation of some of the ethical considerations we had to navigate, interesting.

1:45.6

We'll also have a little personal update for you as well.

1:48.8

For new listeners, thanks for finding us.

1:51.4

Just to give you peace of mind, we're putting the updates at the end of each episode,

1:55.6

so you can listen to the original podcast, as it was first released, without worrying we'll give anything away the new

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