Pints with Jack, Season 3, Episode 13.

Till We Have Faces, Part 1, Chapter 16 to 17.

Long live the Queen.

Good morning and welcome to Pints with Jack, a podcast where two enthusiastic CS Lewis amateurs get together,

share a beverage and discuss a work of C.S. Lewis.

This season we're reading till we have faces.

My name is David and I'm joined by Matt, son of the father, Bush.

You are two kinds. I try every day to be the son of the Heavenly Father.

Is this trying to make up for you calling me Matt Swifty?

Not at all.

I had friends actually screenshot that and send it to me because I don't actually see anything you do.

And they died laughing.

Well, actually, I was brainstorming with Marie.

We were having brunch after church and I came up with a whole list of them.

And they were all, you know, fun ones.

And then I just put that one in there.

And it made Marie go, oh.

And I figured you'd be looking for me to be mean again. So I thought I would subvert your expectations. Yeah, I actually

thought of negative things with that. And so I need to, you did subvert my expectations. And also,

you seem to just very casually, whenever you talk about things that you and Marie do, just make your

relationship sound so beautiful. I don't mean that in like a way that you're falsely doing

it. It is. You're like, you know, just after mass at brunch, we were talking. And just what a great

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