S37 E2: Don’s Copy | The Expert Witness
The Expert Witness from Uncover
CBC
4.5 • 10.9K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
In the ‘parallel universe’ of Boulder Colorado, defense attorney Eric Zale is working on a very similar case. A report claims to link a suspect to incriminating online activity, but offers no clear explanation of how it works or how its conclusions were reached. Unaware of Zale or any other Cybercheck cases outside of Akron, Don Malarcik continues to dig deeper. Don hires experts and investigators, but no one can verify Cyber Check’s methods or it’s creator Adam Mosher’s credentials. Meanwhile, prosecutors continue relying on the technology, presenting it as powerful, cutting-edge evidence. As Don prepares to challenge Mosher in court, he realizes he’s not just defending one client—he’s confronting a black-box system that could quietly reshape how guilt is determined, without transparency or accountability.
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| 0:00.0 | We're Sarah Turney and Courtney Nicole. |
| 0:03.0 | Crime has impacted both of our families, |
| 0:05.8 | teaching us how the last conversations, the missed red flags, can change everything. |
| 0:11.1 | On the final hours, we examine the moments before a disappearance and the questions that never got answered. |
| 0:17.2 | Listen to and follow the final hours wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:21.2 | New episodes every Monday. |
| 0:24.5 | This is a CBC podcast. |
| 0:27.4 | We begin somewhere completely different with a different guy who lives in the mountains |
| 0:34.0 | in a parallel universe called Colorado. |
| 0:38.7 | My name is Eric Zale. I am an attorney in a small two-person law firm in Boulder, Colorado. |
| 0:45.4 | Boulder is over a thousand miles away from Akron and is an even further distance culturally |
| 0:51.0 | from Summit County's stack of unsolved murders. |
| 0:54.6 | There isn't a ton of violent crime. |
| 0:57.1 | There's not a lot of, like, homicides and home invasions and robberies and sexual |
| 1:02.2 | assaults and stuff. |
| 1:03.6 | That's kind of why I'm here. |
| 1:04.5 | Just trying to raise a family and, you know, not work too hard. |
| 1:08.3 | So this is Eric Zale, small firm, doing important work, lots of mountain biking. |
| 1:13.8 | All right. |
| 1:14.7 | His entry into our story begins in 2021, when someone he'd never met before called him up, |
| 1:21.4 | out of the blue. |
| 1:22.6 | And was under investigation for possession of child pornography. |
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