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Foul Play: Crime Series

S35 Ep4: The Chia Children - Evidence

Foul Play: Crime Series

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, Society & Culture, News, Daily News, History

4.4986 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

In the final episode of our series on Charles and Jennifer Chia, we examine the known evidence and unanswered questions that continue to surround their tragic case. With insight from retired detectives Allan Fox and Ron Dreher, we revisit the timeline, key suspects, and overlooked details from the original 1989 investigation. From a mysterious ransom call to a suspicious shovel found near the burial site, every piece of information could be vital. If you remember anything—no matter how small—please come forward. This is a haunting, unsolved murder of two children that still cries out for justice.



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0:00.0

Hello, friends.

0:18.0

Hello, friends.

0:25.2

This season, we are bringing you the story of Charles and Jennifer Chaugh.

0:28.7

This is episode four, evidence.

0:38.6

As well as myself and Wendy, throughout this season, you will also hear from retired detective Alan Fox and retired detective Ron Dreher.

0:47.1

I'm Alan Fox. I live in Reno, Nevada, and I'm retired from law enforcement for over 30 years.

0:59.2

I've worked robbery homicide for 10 years. My name is Ron Drear. I went to work for Reno on March 15, 1973, and then I retired in July 23, 1999. We have been asked to cover this case by Alan and Ron to see if anyone remembers anything

1:08.5

about Charles and Jennifer. Always remember, however insignificant

1:14.6

something might seem to you, it may be a vital piece of evidence that helps the police to work out

1:20.6

what happened. So if you have any information at all, please do come forward. You can contact Reno Police directly,

1:30.3

or if you prefer to stay anonymous, you can contact us and we will pass on the information for you.

1:37.3

This is a very sad case about two young children who went missing in 1989 and whose bodies were not discovered until the

1:47.1

following year. This is a murder case that has never been solved. And please note that while we are

1:54.5

not including graphic details in this series, we are dealing with children. So this may not be

2:00.7

suitable for all listeners.

2:03.6

In episode one, we heard how Charles and Jennifer Char went missing after leaving school on the 18th of October,

2:10.6

1989, how their mother Anne was away in Taiwan and their grandmother was looking after them.

2:21.0

In episode two, we looked at the circumstances around their disappearance.

2:25.3

And in episode three, the remains of Charles and Jennifer were found.

2:31.1

In this final episode of the series, we will be going through the evidence and facts that are known, and other circumstances that may be relevant to the case,

2:35.1

just in case it triggers anyone's memory. The original investigation was for a case of two missing

2:41.2

children rather than homicide, so the checks that were carried out were different, and there

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