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Foul Play: Crime Series

S35 Ep3: The Chia Children - Remains

Foul Play: Crime Series

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, Society & Culture, News, Daily News, History

4.4 • 986 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this third installment of our series on Charles and Jennifer Chia, we delve into the discovery of their remains nine months after they vanished on October 18, 1989. Retired Detective Allan Fox and Retired Detective Ron Dreher share their firsthand experiences of this tragic case, describing the remote location where the children’s bodies were found and discussing the investigative steps that followed. We also explore how the authorities confirmed Charles and Jennifer’s identities and how the grisly discovery has shaped ongoing efforts to find their killer. Though more than three decades have passed, the children’s mother, Ann, is still seeking answers—and hoping that someone will come forward with information that could finally bring resolution.

Key Topics

  • Recap of Charles and Jennifer’s Disappearance: A brief overview of the events leading to their disappearance and the efforts by law enforcement to locate them.
  • Discovery of the Remains: How the children’s bodies were found by a Caltrans employee in a shallow grave near Highways 70 and 89, miles away from their Reno home.
  • Insights from Law Enforcement: Commentary from Allan Fox and Ron Dreher on the crime scene, the surrounding area, and the significance of evidence (including a shovel found at the scene).
  • Identification and Aftermath: Matching the children’s clothing to the descriptions from the day they went missing, and the grim confirmation via dental charts.
  • Mother’s Plea for Justice: Ann Chia’s heartbreaking statement about her children and her call for anyone with information to speak up.

Why This Episode Matters

This episode underscores the profound impact of Charles and Jennifer’s tragic story and highlights the continued efforts to uncover what truly happened. By revisiting the scene and hearing directly from detectives who were there, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges law enforcement faced—and the desperate need for any new leads that might finally solve this case.

Listener Discretion

While this episode does not include graphic forensic details, it addresses the sensitive topic of child abduction and murder. Some listeners may find parts of the discussion upsetting.

Call to Action

If you have any information regarding the disappearance or deaths of Charles and Jennifer Chia, please contact the Reno Police Department. If you wish to remain anonymous, you can reach out to us at itsfoulplay.com, and we will forward any tips to law enforcement.

Looking Ahead

In our fourth and final episode of this series, we will examine the evidence, publicly known suspects, and the open questions that linger decades after Charles and Jennifer were taken from their family. Be sure to tune in to learn how you can help keep their memories alive—and possibly move the case forward.

Thank you for joining us on this journey. Every detail, no matter how small, has the potential to help. If you’ve found this episode valuable, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with friends.



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1:17.7

Welcome back to Fow Play.

1:20.6

This season, I'm bringing you the story of Charles and Jennifer Chaw.

1:26.0

This is episode three, remains.

1:29.6

As a reminder, as well as myself and Wendy,

1:33.7

throughout this season, you will also hear from retired detective Alan Fox

1:37.6

and retired detective Ron Drear.

1:41.7

I'm Alan Fox.

1:43.3

I live in Reno, Nevada, and I'm retired from law enforcement for over 30 years.

1:49.0

I've worked robbery homicide for 10 years.

1:52.0

My name is Ron Dreher.

1:54.0

I went to work for Reno on March 15, 1973, and then I retired in July 23rd, 1999.

2:02.4

We have been asked to cover this case by Alan and Ron

2:06.3

to see if anyone remembers anything about Charles and Jennifer.

2:12.1

Always remember however insignificant something might seem to you,

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