Hey there, I'm Kathleen Goldthar, and I have a confession to make. I am a true crime fanatic.

I devour books and films and most of all, true crime podcasts. But sometimes, I just want to know more.

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group, find Crime Story in your podcast app. This is a CBC podcast. It's exactly 56.

56 notches etched into Jeannie McKay's desk in her teenage bedroom.

There weren't more.

That was just the intercourse.

56 wee marks on her desk to track sexual intercourse with her music teacher after class or band practice.

And so I would just make a little notch, tiny little blue pen notch and one, two, three, four,

five, one, two, three, four, five. And I have all these little hash marks. So yeah, the desk is

is a real number. It was a real desk and a wooden top. And I would do my

homework on it. That's the desk they got me, mom and dad got me from my bedroom. When she was 16,

I came up with a very real ballpark of probably 150-ish times for oral sex.

Office, office, office, office, back music room, car, parking lot.

In the Dawn Valley, we'd go parking.

I knew that I couldn't keep records, really.

I couldn't have a diary.

I couldn't talk about it to anybody.

And probably he was saying stuff like that too.

And I still had the desk 20 years later because it was a solid desk.

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