Hey everyone, welcome to seeking witchcraft. It's me, Ashley, and today's topic is going to be about how to make your own tools. So that's really exciting. To discuss this, I have on Joe. So Joe, thanks so much for coming on. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah, hi. I'm Joe. I am a witch from Sydney, Australia, and I specialize in making not just tools, just magical artifacts of all kinds. I run a,

I wouldn't call it a shop, it's more like a

personal indulgence called urban

fawn where people can come and

ask me to make

any kind of mad stuff and I

showcase what mad stuff I'm currently

working on and yeah.

How long have you been making your own tools for?

Is this something that you kind of started from day one? Or is this something that you've learned to do over

time? Well, I work as a designer. And so I work in a creative industry. But obviously, being behind

a computer all day long, it's not as creative as people think it is. So I tend to try and indulge that

creative urge outside. And my witchcraft was an obvious place for me to do that. I guess I've been

a witch for more than 20 something years now. And making things and tools has always been

a really big expression, a really big part of how I expressed my craft.

So to answer your question, about 20 odd years or so.

And yes, pretty much from the beginning, I was making my own tools.

That's pretty cool.

So let me ask you that.

So I am not a creative person whatsoever at all.

I have no experience making my own tools,

aside from maybe picking up a stick that I found outside and being like,

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