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Foul Play: Crime Series

S3 Ep7: The Maps

Foul Play: Crime Series

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, Society & Culture, News, Daily News, History

4.4986 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This is the second half of our discussion with the professional Behavior Detection Analyst. We listen and process through Loren Herzog's interview from February 1st, 1999 (second part) along with his later arrest and interrogation from March 1999. We also process Wesley Shermantine's interrogation from March 1999. The video interrogations are posted on our Facebook podcast discussion group.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, In episode six we heard Mike the federal government behavioral detection specialist analyzing

0:37.0

Lauren Herzog's behavior and reactions to questions raised in his interviews on November 20th, 1998.

0:46.1

And then we heard the first part of his interview

0:48.8

on February 1st, 1999.

0:53.0

We will start this episode with the second part of Lawrence February 1st

0:57.0

1999 interview,

0:59.0

which is being conducted by San Joaquin County Sheriff's Detective Tony Cruz and Deborah Shuffle.

1:07.0

Just to recap, Herzog is wearing a black top under a plain black hoodie. On his head he's wearing a black baseball cap which is now

1:16.6

turned backwards.

1:19.6

Help me that's all I'm asking is help.

1:24.4

Put it right here.

1:25.3

What did West tell you about the Chevy Wheeler case back there?

1:29.3

That he buried a body on his parent's property?

1:35.0

Where on the property?

1:40.0

I think it's under that old chavinting.

1:50.8

At 172423, the interrogator asked, what did West tell you about the case that he buried a body on his parents property where

1:55.8

laid response. He's thinking, I have to give a good response for this,

2:01.8

one that's acceptable to them it's another deception indicator and he does

2:07.6

the lot he's thinking of a good answer to tell them then he says I think it's under the old cabin thing

2:14.8

To the Vaitun bag question another time of deception he does the old cabin thing what is that so it's a Vaitin bag, it's not given any real details about it.

2:24.1

Under the old cabin, you've been up there since that, haven't you?

2:27.6

Well, no, wait a minute, if you got there, the cabin was there.

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