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Foul Play: Crime Series

S3 Ep7: The Maps, Unmasking the Truth: Interrogations Unraveled

Foul Play: Crime Series

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, Society & Culture, News, Daily News, History

4.4986 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

"Unmasking the Truth: Interrogations Unraveled," the seventh episode of "The Maps," continues the riveting journey with the professional Behavior Detection Analyst, as hosts Shane and Wendy delve deeper into the intricate world of police interrogation involving the Speed Freak Killers.

This episode picks up from where the previous left off, focusing on the second part of Loren Herzog's interview from February 1st, 1999. The hosts and the analyst meticulously dissect the nuances of Herzog's behavior and responses, revealing the subtle shifts and tactics as the interrogation progresses.

The narrative then shifts to Herzog's later arrest and interrogation in March 1999, a critical moment in the investigation. This section offers listeners an insight into how Herzog's demeanor and strategies evolved, and how law enforcement adapted their techniques in response.

Additionally, the episode explores Wesley Shermantine's interrogation from March 1999. Shane, Wendy, and the Behavior Detection Analyst compare and contrast the interrogation approaches and responses of Shermantine and Herzog. This comparative analysis shines a light on the differing personalities and tactics of the two killers under the pressure of law enforcement scrutiny.

"Unmasking the Truth: Interrogations Unraveled" is a deep dive into the psychological battleground of police interrogation. It provides a fascinating look at how truth and deception are teased out in high-stakes scenarios, offering listeners a rare glimpse into one of the most critical aspects of criminal investigation.

For further exploration of this intriguing and complex case, visit itsfoulplay.com, where the layers of mystery continue to be peeled back in search of the elusive truth.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, In episode six we heard Mike the federal government behavioral detection specialist analyzing

0:37.0

Lauren Herzog's behavior and reactions to questions raised in his interviews on November 20th, 1998.

0:46.1

And then we heard the first part of his interview

0:48.8

on February 1st, 1999.

0:53.0

We will start this episode with the second part of Lawrence February 1st

0:57.0

1999 interview,

0:59.0

which is being conducted by San Joaquin County Sheriff's Detective Tony Cruz and Deborah Shuffle.

1:07.0

Just to recap, Herzog is wearing a black top under a plain black hoodie. On his head he's wearing a black baseball cap which is now

1:16.6

turned backwards.

1:19.6

Help me that's all I'm asking is help.

1:24.4

Put it right here.

1:25.3

What did West tell you about the Chevy Wheeler case back there?

1:29.3

That he buried a body on his parent's property?

1:35.0

Where on the property?

1:40.0

I think it's under that old chavinting.

1:50.8

At 172423, the interrogator asked, what did West tell you about the case that he buried a body on his parents property where

1:55.8

laid response. He's thinking, I have to give a good response for this,

2:01.8

one that's acceptable to them it's another deception indicator and he does

2:07.6

the lot he's thinking of a good answer to tell them then he says I think it's under the old cabin thing

2:14.8

To the Vaitun bag question another time of deception he does the old cabin thing what is that so it's a Vaitin bag, it's not given any real details about it.

2:24.1

Under the old cabin, you've been up there since that, haven't you?

2:27.6

Well, no, wait a minute, if you got there, the cabin was there.

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