Hello everyone and welcome to the Focus Group Podcast.

I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the Bullwork and this week we're talking about the prospect

of a national divorce.

If you missed it a couple weeks back, Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted, we need a national

divorce.

We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.

When I talk to says this, every one she talks to, but Marjorie Taylor Greene's social

circle notwithstanding, there's no doubt our country is facing deep internal divisions.

An MTG isn't the only high profile figure to raise the prospect of secession, national

divorce, and civil war over the past few years.

But how interested are Americans really in breaking up?

Our focus groups have some thoughts.

My guest today is David French, newly minted New York Times opinion columnist and author

of divided we fall America's secession threat and how to restore our nation.

David, my friend, thank you for being here.

Well thanks so much for having me, it's an honor to join you.

Do you feel good about the fact that I said national divorce?

Get me David French.

That's who I want to talk to.

I really have mixed feelings about being the first call when national divorce comes up.

I don't know what to say, you literally wrote the book on the potential of a national

divorce.

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