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Into the final moment, Alex Payne trying to keep this side going forward. Haskell takes it on

now with just relentless chance, largely by himself. And there's Tindall to add the finishing

touch of glamour and world cup winning stories and a slightly sideways nose. That is how you

podcast a dominant display by the good, the bad and the rugby. Hello, ladies and gents, welcome

along to this week's episode of the good, the bad and the rugby. I think we're going to call

it a very special episode this week because sport often for most people is a bit of an escape

from everyday life. But on this week's show, that escape is I think bigger than any of us can

possibly imagine because we have got joining us two stars of the Ukrainian rugby team and their

team manager for a fascinating conversation. Haskell alongside. Hello Alex, welcome along to you.

I think we're going to sort of well, we're going to put our grown up shoes on today and try

to do something a little bit different. There are obviously big stories around the sport as you

know, but there are bigger stories in the context of everyday life. And that's what we're going to

tap into just to remind everyone. I know you know the details by now, but Russia invaded Ukraine.

A little over 16 months ago, excuse me. And since then, the war has raised. Ground has been lost.

It's been gained. There are still great sues of Ukraine that are occupied by Russian and pro-Russian

forces and hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost. And of course, millions of people have

had their lives impacted. Incredibly though, with the war on their doorstep, sport of sorts has

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