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The Good, The Bad & The Rugby

S3 Ep16: The State of the Game with the CEOs of the RFU & Premiership Rugby, Bill Sweeney & Simon Massie-Taylor

The Good, The Bad & The Rugby

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Sports, Rugby

4.42.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2023

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

2022 was a massive year for rugby in England, the sport’s having a tough old time off the pitch, so Hask and Alex invited themselves to Twickenham for a coffee with the big dogs; the CEOs of the PRL and the RFU, Simon Massie-Taylor and Bill Sweeney. The boys manage to peel back the curtain of the goings on in the corridors of power, learn about the men behind the jobs, as well as Eddie’s dismissal, Borthwick’s ascension, Wasps & Worcester and the future of domestic rugby from the prem to grassroots. They talk Championship, Red Roses, Prem 15s, marketing, investment, sponsorship, broadcast deals and the global calendar… strap yourself in for a whistle stop tour of the problems and solutions in the game, as Bill & Simon see it. There’s no stone left unturned in this extended show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In to the final moment, Alex Payne trying to keep this site going forward. Haskell takes

0:10.8

it on now with just relentless chant, largely about himself, and there's Tindall to add

0:15.3

the finishing touch of glamour and world cup-winning stories and a slightly sideways nose. That is

0:21.0

how you podcast. A dominant display by the good, the bad, and the rugby.

0:26.4

Oh, rugby is having a tough, old time at the moment. Wherever you look, there's

0:32.2

seen to be some fairly negative headlines in the press, so much so that I've made a little

0:37.1

list. Because last year we had the painful episode of Premiership Clubs going out of

0:41.7

business. We had concussion lawsuits. We had the World Rugby CO-Crawl-Acher Sack for

0:45.7

allegations of bullying. We had the World Rugby Vice Chairman, Bernard Laporte, given a suspended

0:50.1

prison sentence amidst allegations of corruption. We had an England team booed here at Twickenham.

0:56.0

We had the very painful departure of Eddie Jones. We've got English talent heading overseas

1:00.2

now. We've got a grassroots game that is really struggling. On the pitch, we've had endless

1:04.3

red cards, TMO interventions, referees abuse. As we've seen, a whole load of social media

1:09.4

meltdowns. But there is a lot of potential to be done.

1:12.5

Running rugby is back. The World Cup next year is going to be epic. The women's game is

1:16.2

going from strength to strength. England is under new management, and there is so much

1:20.1

potential for reform. You're absolutely bang on. So much so that today

1:24.0

we've got the opportunity to sit down with two of the most influential men in the English

1:27.7

game right now. The CEOs of Premiership Rugby and RFU respectively, Simon Massey Taylor and

1:32.8

Bill Sweeney. It's another good band rugby state of the game, and I'm delighted to say

1:37.2

the boardroom is ready. I think last time you were in there was for a disciplinary hearing,

1:40.7

wasn't it? The coffee is on. It's time for us to go and try the Twicken and Biscuits. Come on,

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