Good evening. Welcome back to the darkness on the Edgetown Paranormal radio show joining us in the third hour of the show. We appreciate you spending time with us.

Originally, our guests for this hour were going to be Zach and Nick from the television show Ghost Adventures. We just had them on last hour. They came in graciously to spend some time with us because their first guest blew us off.

Yeah.

I was not able to shop Brian Riggie or Rihie or it's got a great voicemail message though. It doesn't matter. He's not on the show. I heard it like 10, 12 times. Yeah. It's a bummer. But that's nothing to worry about because we've got in his stead, Mr. Dennis. I've got a good.

You got me.

Yeah. Well, no, we've got so many people want to hear. No, I'm just kidding with it. Come on. And he's laughing. We've got online with us.

And creator of the Avalis and the paranormal puck owner of Ghostshop.com. We have Bill Chappell and I wanted to build on the show. I'm glad we could actually up this and get him on this evening.

Bill, thank you for joining us here, especially last minute on the show. I appreciate you coming in with us.

Oh, thanks, Dave. Jim. It's always pleasure.

Now, Bill, I want to talk to you about the Avalis and I had the chance finally to work with the paranormal puck with you this week when we were out at the Queen Mary and definitely got a taste for what it does.

And there's a lot of controversy about these tools. And I wanted to lay some fears for people straight out of the shoot. I mean, first of all, when you created this and for people that haven't heard your story, I want to kind of start back in the beginning with this.

You created the puck more as a goof, right? People were coming to you and asking you to help build something like the Frank's Box, which is a linear radio scanner and give them an alternative.

And you being an engineer, you were kind of wrapping your mind around this whole deal. Had you had paranormal experiences in your life before that?

You know, Dave, I had a few and at the time I was actually working on some different types of equipment. And you're absolutely right when I got approached about doing it.

You know, the whole concept of me was pretty foreign and I'd never seen a Frank's Box at that time and I got exposed to one and I didn't believe it worked.

And I took the whole thing, kind of like a joke. And I never hid that fact. I've been very actually not proud of it, but very upfront with people about it.

Because it has a lot to do with how the device can be and how it's in the form it is right now. And probably a lot about why I'm even skeptical on my own website about my own equipment and why I'm very careful to, you know, the way I present the equipment.

But it was definitely a different type of scenario for me. I've always had a belief in the afterlife in one form or another.

And I think I've always had a belief that there's something paranormal going on in this world. But the concept of actually communication, not so much, at least not until a couple of years ago.

Right now, when you would started tooling around with this, what made you decide to go with the method that you did for the paranormal puck and first of all, explaining people, what, what all features the puck has?

And I don't want, I know it's going to sound like an infomercial, but I want people to understand that this isn't just a, you know, an all explain, you know, new Ouija board. This thing, it, it measures.

What, what all do you have? Does it do the temperature? I can't remember if the paranormal puck has that.

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