Hello and welcome to Series 3 episode 12 of Out with Susie Ruffle. I hope that you've been having a good week.

I've had a busy one but it's Sunday now I just had some banana bread. So, you know, things are looking up.

I'm very excited to share today's conversation with you. I think it's a really special one. I absolutely love

Susie McCabe. If you're not aware of her I think you're going to love her too.

What a great conversation we had. Before we get to that, a few thank you. Thank you so

much to everyone and anyone that's got in touch this

week after listening to the Ryan O'Connell episode. It seems that we had some new listeners as well,

so thank you so much. I've been getting just such incredible feedback. I'm so delighted that so

many of you are enjoying the podcast. As always I will be sharing a couple of

listener emails at the top of the show and then we'll get

into the interview. Yeah, but let's go to those emails right now. Before I read this

email I just want to highlight that it mentions eating disorders

quite briefly but if that's something you don't feel you can listen to today maybe

just skip forward by a minute or so and then you don't have to hear that if it's

something you would prefer not to hear.

Dear Susie, I'm a 20 year old lesbian, my pronouns are she and her and I'm a massive fan of the show.

Kayle's Luellen and Joe Lice it had me crying in season one and I've loved every episode since so thank you so much for making it happened

The show has also helped me a lot when it has come to really struggling with my sexuality at the start of lockdown and asking myself questions that you ask your guests like what were you like as a child or what do you realize looking back was a sign that you missed.

It's really helped me come to terms of my own experience and made me feel insurmountably less alone, so thank you.

I've been dealing with my sexuality my whole life, but only consciously for the last five years,

even though I do have some strange memories

from when I was younger, for example,

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